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Old 2004-10-26, 15:38
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Old 2004-10-26, 17:00
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would it fuck up my nylon string acoustic guitar if I would tune it to C? it doesn't have a truss rod or anything...
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Old 2004-10-26, 22:11
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for the sake of clarity i have tuned to c# recently. of course i play primarily extreme death metal so a low low tuning makes everything pretty much mush. i wish to hell nile would tune up to c or c#. in my opinion tuning down to B gives no particular increase in heaviness. i mean hate eternal tunes to D and they are one of the heaviest bands ive ever heard.

Nile tune down so low for reasons other than heaviness. Like the range of the vocalists. Consider the fact that the first metal guitarist to tune down (Tony Iommi, to C#) did so because his singer's voice couldn't go high enough. Your tuning should reflect more than desire to be heavy, because, as noted, you don't get much heavier than D or C no matter how low down you tune.

I'm usually in standard, Eb, or D. With the limited materials at my disposal I can't do much else. Occasionally I'll use one of the open tunings I know from Zeppelin songs, but not often.
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Old 2004-10-26, 23:09
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would it fuck up my nylon string acoustic guitar if I would tune it to C? it doesn't have a truss rod or anything...


Nope. Nylon strings don't put enough tention on the neck anyway. I have a classical guitar with nylon strings and it doesn't have a truss rod 'cause it isn't needed. Just don't ever put metal strings on a guitar built for nylon strings or else your guitar will implode
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Old 2004-10-26, 23:21
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Nope. Nylon strings don't put enough tention on the neck anyway. I have a classical guitar with nylon strings and it doesn't have a truss rod 'cause it isn't needed. Just don't ever put metal strings on a guitar built for nylon strings or else your guitar will implode


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Old 2004-10-27, 01:35
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I've had the same classical guitar for more than 1 and a 1/2 years and it's had the same strings and they haven't broken once, that probably explains why.
 
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Old 2004-10-27, 02:17
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Old 2004-10-27, 03:40
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i'm curretnly on D. had tuned down to C once & the sound just got better than ever...although C# does the best for me
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Old 2004-10-27, 13:15
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hahaha, range of the singer? in NILE? hahaha, you make me laugh. if that truely is thier reasoning i feel so sorry for karl sanders.
 
Old 2004-10-27, 21:05
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Have you heard how low Karl Sanders' vocals are? Listen to the intro to The Black Flame - tuning to anything other than A (or B at a push) simply would not match up with the vocals.
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Old 2004-10-28, 14:49
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d,c,and c#
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Old 2004-10-28, 14:57
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sorry, little off topic...
D-players, what kind of strings do you use? I'll buy some thicker ones soon for my Ltd, I was thinking of .10-.52 or .10-.46... Don't want too thick, I like to play every string fast, but can you play the higher-e-string (well in this case higher-d) fast for soloing and such even with a .52?
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Old 2004-10-28, 15:13
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for d i usually use .10 just cause i like the feel of the strings.
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Old 2004-10-28, 21:32
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Old 2004-10-29, 00:55
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I used to use .11's, but I had to keep it in standard tuning for my band so i just said so what if i can't perfectly imitate low tunings and went back to .10s.
 
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for D, i now use 0.10s
earlier it was 0.08s (which heck i also used for C )...then changed to 0.09-0.08 hybrid (string 1,2,3 of 0.08 gauge).

now its 0.10-0.09 hybrid...the 0.09s make it easier while soloing
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Old 2004-10-29, 04:01
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8s? jesus, i use 11s at standard even... and 11s at D, but 8s? those are like a lightbulb filament!
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Old 2004-10-30, 21:42
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Standard, because Im now a faggot.


Exactly my situation. I'm too much of a noob to convert tabs in other tunings to standard, so I just go grab a GuitarPro tab and switch the tabs to standard tunings(although most of the time that fucks up the tab).
 
Old 2004-10-31, 02:17
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The lightest gauge i've played is .09, ive never even seen .08.
 
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8's Damn thats tiny, but some dudes have a light enough touch that it works great for them.
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with my 7 string i tune a half step down and for my schecter i tune to drop c
 
Old 2004-10-31, 03:23
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I keep my 6 strings at D# or use drop C# and my 7 string at A#
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8s? jesus, i use 11s at standard even... and 11s at D, but 8s? those are like a lightbulb filament!

it worked fine for D, but for C, ti was like chank-chank-jhujj-furrrrrrrrr
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Old 2004-10-31, 18:40
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Old 2004-11-05, 04:22
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Old 2004-11-05, 11:22
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I look at everybody's tunings... and well what can I say.
I use 60-10 on a 6 sting tuned to Drop A#.
Who needs two guitarists in a band when you can produce all the heavyness all
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you're gay guy. fuck off cunt, you dont know shit about metal. your an idiot. 99% of this forum will agree with me. judging by your appalling musical tastes, i strongly suggest you leave and dont come back before you something bad happens to you.
 
Old 2004-11-05, 12:14
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Who needs two guitarists in a band when you can produce all the heavyness all
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Because when you play live you only get half the heaviness of two guitars and there is no scope for incorporating harmonized guitar parts and also solos with the correct/relevant backing. Pretty simple.
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Old 2004-11-05, 12:28
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If i was playing guitar id prefer Drop C, Nice chunky tone.
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Old 2004-11-05, 20:02
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drop tuning dont really work for me, i just like standard tunings better.
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Old 2004-11-05, 20:29
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Who needs two guitarists in a band when you can produce all the heavyness all by yourself...

That's a pretty limited view of the scope of things guitars can accomplish. They can even do things that aren't heavy.
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Old 2004-11-05, 21:00
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Old 2004-11-06, 04:32
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ive been in drop c for a while now. im gonna go get some 9s tomorrow and go back up to standard or drop d.
 
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C G C F A D until the day i die!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the strings all loose so i can bend easier and
it's real heavy and low.
Eb only when we cover Metallica, Black Sabbath,
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C G C F A D until the day i die!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the strings all loose so i can bend easier and
it's real heavy and low.
Eb only when we cover Metallica, Black Sabbath,
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those bands all play in E standard, you fucking idiot. also, Adam Dutkiewicz is a fucking genius. im not a fan of the work he does in Killswitch Engage, but his production is top notch. not to mention, he uses CGCFAD, YOUR FAVORITE TUNING!!!!!!1
 
Old 2004-11-07, 22:45
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Old 2004-11-08, 00:27
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those bands all play in E standard, you fucking idiot. also, Adam Dutkiewicz is a fucking genius. im not a fan of the work he does in Killswitch Engage, but his production is top notch. not to mention, he uses CGCFAD, YOUR FAVORITE TUNING!!!!!!1



Actually they do use Eb On quite a bit of their shit dumbass.

P.S. Adam Dutkiewicz is a hack.
 
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This is true. Those bands do use Eb tuning. I use it on most of my guitars too.
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Old 2004-11-08, 00:37
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maybe the other 2, but not metallica. i know that for a fact
 
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Nope. Metallica uses Eb too most times. They really do.
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every song ive seen by them is tuned standard... i am confuzzled, dont bash on Andrew, jacksonman, he made a simple error, if what you said was true.
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Old 2004-11-08, 00:50
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Sabbath tunes to C# starting with Master of Reality. I don't think Maiden or Metallica tuned to Eb regularly, though I'm almost always in Eb when playing them. Slayer's always been Eb though, and god love them for it.
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a pretty stupid question... how do you tune to Eb?
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tune all strings down one half step.
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Nope. Metallica uses Eb too most times. They really do.


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Old 2004-11-08, 03:15
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Perhaps I am wrong, but I was 100% sure of it until today.
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i think it is standard too.
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tune all strings down one half step.

how is that done on like EADGBe thingy?
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Half step down or Eb tuning is standard tuning but every thing sounds 1 fret lower. Normal standard concert pitch is 440Hz A but Eb is 415Hz A. Basically, if tuned to standard then tune one string 1 fret lower and from that one string that is 1 fret lower retune the rest of the strings to it.
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Will a set of 11's tuned in D have a similar tension of 10's tuned in E???
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yeah, D is pretty good... my favorite tuning, either that or C#.
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Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb (For thrash)
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B A D G B E (For more BLS shit)
D A D G B E (For simple riffs)
but my ALL TIME fave is...**drum roll**...C# (For tight sounding death metal)
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Yeah, C# is pretty good, ive noticed alot more bands using it too.
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Currently using 13's for my Ibanez Ex, tuned at an A.
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I have a question:

Will a set of 11's tuned in D have a similar tension of 10's tuned in E???


Hmm, maybe someone could answer my question? Its kinda important...
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Old 2004-11-09, 17:24
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I really dont know. It's just a number game when it comes to guessing tention on different string gauges. I would gueass that it might be close, but I would have to try it out first in order to discover the properties of string tention vs string gauge.
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Awright Soul, thanks, I'll probably do some homework on that later.
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every song ive seen by them is tuned standard... i am confuzzled, dont bash on Andrew, jacksonman, he made a simple error, if what you said was true.


Sorry i was wrong they do use standard alot too.
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its cool, ive just never seen a metallica song is Eb, but i know one great guitarist that uses Eb, Jason Fucking Becker.
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They used Eb on Metallica and the Load albums...and probably live to...I think that's about it.
 
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They used Eb on Metallica and the Load albums...and probably live to...I think that's about it.


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they also used Eb on st. anger, a waste of effort, as well as Drop C and drop A, and a funny seven string tuning that i cant remember off hand.
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those bands all play in E standard, you fucking idiot.



It's that a fact YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
Tony Iomi States himself that on the "Masters of Reality" Album he plays in C# tuning.

Old Metallica yes, New Metallica NO NO NO!!!!!
C#, C, A#

FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
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Old 2004-11-11, 09:52
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The fact that you know what tuning new Metallica uses further emphasises that you are a stupid christian bitch.... do everyone a favour and fuck off you overly aggressive cunt.
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Old 2004-11-11, 12:11
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It's that a fact YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
Tony Iomi States himself that on the "Masters of Reality" Album he plays in C# tuning.

We already told him this. Watch:

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Sabbath tunes to C# starting with Master of Reality.

Aside from that, your post was useless. Nobody here cares what Metallica tunes to anymore. Yelling at somebody who's already been gently corrected with the loving touch only metalheads bring is pointless, and will contribute to your useless antagonism to this site.
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Old 2004-11-11, 12:21
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The fact that you know what tuning new Metallica uses further emphasises that you are a stupid christian bitch.... do everyone a favour and fuck off you overly aggressive cunt.



Aaahhhh, Am I a bit too aggressive for you.

Do you want a hug!

Fuckhead!
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Old 2004-11-11, 13:27
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drop A is easy. A E A D G B E


That's for a 7-string. Six-string drop A is A E A D F# B.
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Old 2004-11-11, 21:22
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so is D tuning correctly said Standard tuning, 1 step down
B tuning must be Standard tuning, 2.5 steps down

how many times has the latter notation been used in this thread?


D tuning? you mean drop D or D standard? two totally different things... D standard has all of the strings in standard E tuning tuned down one step and is commonly reffered to as D standard.
drop d is standard E with the low E tuned down a step to D, with all other strings the same..

technically drop C is standard E with only the low E tuned down two whole steps.
but many people will commonly reffer drop D down a step as drop C... even though it isnt exactly correct, just common terminology.

B tuning CAN be called E standard tuned down two and a half steps, but for the ease of things it's usually called B standard.
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Old 2004-11-11, 22:02
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yeah, whitetones, shut up before you get flamed away.
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Old 2004-11-12, 03:51
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Aaahhhh, Am I a bit too aggressive for you.

Do you want a hug!


First off, there is a character used in the english language to punctuate sentences. It is called a question mark, aptly named as it indicates that a question is being asked. It looks like this: '?'. Now use it bitch.

Yes, I wouldn't mind a hug, but not from you or any other christian childraper. Now go do what you're good at, putting rubber tyres around black peoples heads and setting them on fire.

And to innardsdecay, on some old metallica songs they use drop D. One that I can think of is 'The Thing That Should Not Be' off Master of Puppets.
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Old 2004-11-12, 04:13
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haha, drop D eh?
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Old 2004-11-16, 03:44
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It's that a fact YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!
Tony Iomi States himself that on the "Masters of Reality" Album he plays in C# tuning.

Old Metallica yes, New Metallica NO NO NO!!!!!
C#, C, A#

FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!



I'm interested as to how exactly you reconcile your use of profanity and virulent and obstreperous behaviour with your beliefs in a Christian ideaology that is predicated upon conventional morals and values.
 
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man john, keep up with more posts like that, youre a keeper.
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Old 2004-11-16, 05:20
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John or his skinflakes?
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Old 2004-11-16, 20:03
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skinflakes? well, whatever, he just E-owned whittones, but he kinda opened him self up to that anyway.
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Heheh ... could'nt resist.
 
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Old 2004-11-18, 02:01
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The fact that you know what tuning new Metallica uses further emphasises that you are a stupid christian bitch.... do everyone a favour and fuck off you overly aggressive cunt.


haha.lmao.
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Old 2004-11-18, 14:57
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Old 2004-11-18, 20:04
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i dunno, maybe hes gone.
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:46
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tuned to B yesterday...KILLER !!!
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:49
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ok now try G
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:54
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absolutely no reason to tune to G, unless your mortician. haha
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Old 2004-11-19, 02:57
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Whoa G?? you must have some thick strings...i've been tuning to Eb lately..
 
Old 2004-11-19, 03:04
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I was just kidding. I used to do that shit a few years ago....and I also used to play with a .075 on my low...with a .056 below it!!! Now I am strictly A# on my seven though.
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Old 2004-11-19, 03:20
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Old 2004-11-19, 21:39
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My favourite tuning is standard probaly, because most songs I play are in standard.... but I like to play a whole step down for stuff like children of bodom!
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Old 2004-11-20, 02:22
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Drop D & B, C#, and standard.

C#: because it's really raw, it something you can have you distortion pedal on, and crank it up, and it sounding dark

Drop D: It's an alternative, and is a good one. Plenty of bands (one of them being Rammstein) uses this turning constantly.

Drop B: A bit down from D, and is just great

Standard: It's just standard...but it still has it's feels



 
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Old 2004-12-01, 22:20
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this is a little off topic but... has anyone used power-bright strings? I just put a .10 - .50 power-bright set of strings on my guitar today and WOW it sounds a lot better than it did with d'addario .10 - .46.
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this is a little off topic but... has anyone used power-bright strings? I just put a .10 - .50 power-bright set of strings on my guitar today and WOW it sounds a lot better than it did with d'addario .10 - .46.

I have used them, I didn't really like them that much. I prefer smaller strings, like .9 - .42 or for droped C i use .10 - .46. I think i might try playing in droped C with some .9s.
 
Old 2004-12-05, 12:56
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How do you get into drop b tuning without a chromatic tuner? i know you can tune off of your fretboard to get to standard...i just need to know how to get into drop b.
 
Old 2004-12-05, 15:07
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its funny because i read all of the people dominating whitetones, and im like dang what did this faggot say. so i scrolled up and it turned out he was talking to me. lol. funnier part is that i dont give a fuck. thanks for the defense though, guys. i love you all like brothers!!!!!
 
Old 2004-12-05, 18:03
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Anytime man! Still at C# by the way, just to keep on subject.
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Old 2004-12-05, 18:06
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I'm in E right now, I havent bothered tuning down to Eb, I will when ive played the crap out of the strings that are on now.
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