Now i know that half the kick ass sound u get from a metal band comes from their amps, but im lookin for a good "metal guitar." Right now i have an ibanez - X model and if u dont know what that is then go here and look it up. I have looked and some ESP's and other ibanez models like the K-7. which pickups do u guys prefer, the ESP's or the humbuckers? so far my ibanez is awesome, no tuning problems and hardly any maintenance but if u guys think u got a better guitar and tell me and i'll have a look see...

The K-7 is the ULTIMATE METAL GUITAR!!!! KORN ROX MY SOX FOLIO

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from what ive played the K-7 isnt a bad guitar, who gives a fuck who plays the thing, if it sounds good, it sounds good. i am looking at a prs, not very metal look wise, but they sound amazing. you could always go les paul, although i am not a gibson fan, or a strat, although i am not a fender fan either. then there are b.c.rich's, which, no matter what people may say, are killer guitars, especially if you want a cool looking guitar. esp's arent bad, neither are jacksons, but the decision is really up to you, hell i play death metal on a squier affinity telecaster, which i have had since i started playing electric guitar almost 3 years ago, i have modified it though, but i still think it sounds shit loads better than any les paul or strat ive ever played.

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im sold on the ibanez rg line.. i'm sellin my ibanez strat copy and gibson les paul special.. all i ever play is my 370 dx anymore. i might end up getting an old 570 or new 1570 instead before too long just for the nicer bridge, but this 370 is pretty sweet right now. i'll be putting dimarzio pups in as soon as i can get some money for the 2 axes that i'm selling.. then it'll have great metal sounds.

esps are obviously good for metal.. active pickups are quite good. dimarzio makes great passive pups though, and i need passives to keep the use of my h/s/h configuration.. can't blend the passive middle single with an active circuit you might have that problem too if you want h/s/h pups.

I love BC Rich, they are indeed good metal guitars, both in sound and design.

My LTD M-155 is great too, and many Jacksons are also good. Ibanez are great too, but usually more $

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i fuckin hate bc rich's. They look fairly decent but sound like utter shit, if i was u i'd get a ESP, Maverick or Ibanez

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I've got a Ibanez S-series with the V1 and V2 Humbuckers and a S2 Singlecoil. I just play the bridge-HB, the V2. And it's really nice. Nice basses (altough some sound-engineers dislike that ), good sound.
A friend has an RG-series from Ibanez, a cheaper one and the sound has less bass and is not so clean.
So, if you could get an ibanez with these humbuckers, you'll get along well with that.

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I have a jackson KE3 and it's heavy as fuck and it plays really easy. But your guitar is pretty bad ass too!

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I play all my death/trash metal on a Washburn guitar. BC Rich isn't good unless you have enough money to order a custom one. Jacksons are pretty good.

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Well, I get really necro sound on mine, so its ok

are you aware that they colors look like ass and the floyd is useless because they sue that dumb bar... and you can get the same guitar for half the price... exactly who cares who plays it.... that why you get the cheaper verison with there names all over it.

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Get a Jackson.

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I love my ESP like none other. It's a bit pricy, because the lower model ESPs are LTDs, so if it's ESP it's automatically high-end, but I love it. I'd also suggest a Gibson Les Paul, heavy as fuck if you replace the pickups. Gibsons also have nice Vs, though the only one that looks really metal is the Voodoo.

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yea i love the b.c. rich series but when ya pick one up it seems like a novice guitar to play but never the less they look like beasts and kerry king plays one so that alone is a reason to get one. ive looked at many jacksons but they all have this new stringing system that would just make me go insane, im one of those lazy impatient types. My ibanez x model is my little baby it has that Kiss sound (which i do love) and if u look in the photos of the Kiss official biography then u'll see my guitar strung around Paul Stanley's amazingly sexy body (not that im gay or anything)

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BC Riches sound like shit when you buy them, but once you replace the hardware (tuners, nut, bridge (i replaced the tune-o-matic for a Tonepros locking tune-o-matic), and pickups, they are pretty nice. The fret job isn't horrible on my Platinum Series Warlock, though obviously not the greatest.

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I like my ibanez RG,it sounds great.i play mostly deathmetal.jackson DKMG has a good sound.

Get a life! :P

dude u talk so much crap I can't belive it

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[QUOTE=MetalPoldi]I've got a Ibanez S-series [QUOTE]

Hell mutha fuckin ye!!! i fuckin love s series ibanez's, the zr trems pretty mint and they are so comfortabel

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ive looked at the washburn series, they look awesome but do they play well? or would i have to change the pickups and shit like that. I think i've fallen in love with some of the ESP pickups. I plugged one of those into my friends amp and played his ESP for a full hour. It made me think i could pull off a metallica solo yea right. Maybe when i get the pick speed of a humming birds wings.

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If you can, play every guitar you like the looks of. As you know you can always change the pickups and hardware. Then if you can, plug it into the model amp you already have or every amp your interested in. You'll know what's the best Metal sound for you. Feels just like falling in lust with that tight little tattooed, dressed in leather groupie thats been stalking your ass, cuz you got the tone!!!!!!

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Hey brow, If you ever need help with replacing anything then let me know. You live close enough that it wouldn't be a problem for me and no charge. I just love guitar work and I am forever modifing my guitars. I have even refret, leveled, and polished the frets on my 7 string ( not to mention my badass fiber optic job on the side dots ). Guitar electronics are the easiest for me, though. Let me know if I can help you out with anything in the future, but no, I won't do that fiber optic thing ever again. That was a real pain in the ass for me to complete.

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You want a sweet guitar that can eb used for anything? Get a peavey wolfgang. I know this may seem biased seeing as I am a Van halen fan but the thing is like a les paul on steroids. The tremolo cant bend up but not too many songs do bend up with the bar. It has the d-tuna. great for dropped d crap. The neck is just liek butter. Nothing beats the neck. Go try one out and you will not be disappointed. For the best sound I would go with the american made deluxe model.

I have one and I think it is better then anything I have played, I use to LOVE BC Rich, but after I got my Dime, I can't stand anything else.

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You can always put active EMGs (the pickups installed in ESPs, unless it's an LTD, then it's either EMG-HZs which are passive or ESP pickups, which are the lowest level pickup they sell and they are also passive) into whatever guitar you get. I put EMGs in my BC Rich, sounds much better.

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most of the sound of any guitar comes from the pickups. of course the woods (body, neck and fretboard) all have an influence on the brightness or darkness of the tone, the pickups have by far the greatest impact.

active emgs sound the same on all guitars for the most part, and they're a standard for good metal sounds. good passive pickups will sound different on any guitar.. they let the wood sound through a bit more. dimarzio makes great pickups for metal.. i've got a tone zone and air norton on the way for my RG.. that's a very killer combo.

That's true to a point. Sustain is totally affected by the wood and construction. A Les Paul is still gonna have twice the sustain of a strat now matter how you look at it. Also, Zakk Wylde swears by his Mahogany bodies and necks and ebony fretboards (though his new camo model has a maple neck and fretboard) and he uses EMGs. The wood and construction of the guitar are what affects how the string vibrates while the pickups hone in on the sound produced by the strings (well actually the way the vibrating string affects the magnetic field around the pickups). A 100% maple guitar with EMGs is still gonna sound a lot different that a 100% mahogany guitar with the same pickups.

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people should stop making giant generlizations and denouncing certain brands as shit because what you play in a music shop is not nessecarily the greatist guitar. I use to get pissed of because bc rich's looked so cool but sounded and felt like shit until i looked into it a little and found that only their custom's had dimarzio pickups and neck-thrus, same with jacksons; only the usa select series and customs have desent pickups.

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My opinion on all this is that it really doesn't matter what brand the guitar is, what it is made out of, if its neck-thru or bolt on, as long as you can make a good sound out of it and you like how it plays, then its all good. Of course on guitars that are made out of shitty materials and has a bolt on neck will be harder to sound good but if you like the guitar then it really doesn't matter. I don't know if I'm making any sence.

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Get an ESP LTD F-400 with EMG active pickups, basically any ESP will do Ibanez RGs are pretty sweet too. I prefer a guitar without a floyd rose but that up to the player.

that would be awesome man. i dont need any work done now but if i need anythin then ill be sure to talk to ya...by the way hows ur Ran model? Does it kick ass? Does it sound good?

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Haven't got it yet. Maybe later this week or next, but as soon as I get it I'm putting a set of black Dunlop flush straplocks on it.

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oh nice...i thought u said it was coming like a week ago

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Nope! They finished it on friday the 20th. Its only been 4 days since then. I wished they could have teleported it to me, but I have to wait, and it seems like a long damn wait now. First 3 months wasn't bad, but as soon as it was done I couldn't stand to wait any longer. I want it now! Now now now!

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umm... EMG makes active singlecoils you know...

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more like a reason not to get a bc rich lol

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I have an Ibanez GRX20L and it works really nicely. Stays in tune forever pretty much. Decent pickups. Fast neck. And pure black (well except for the bridge and machine heads). around 200 bucks.

yea i love how ibanez guitars just stay in tune forever

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any guitar with a quality floyd rose that is properly set up will stay in tune

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Holy shit
i have an older verison of that (rx 20l)

it was the first guitar i ever got, and it owns
i have it tuned to B now, with 13-56 strings with a seymour duncan JB

thats awesome how much was it?

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Just play every guitar in your upper price range regardless of looks or endorsement by professionals. Your taste and comforst is the only thing that matters.

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I play a Dean MLX, Id like to get a higher model with a floyd rose and maybe some seymore duncun Invaders for the bridge. Its all in prefrence. For death metal My dean is fine.

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300 canadian, i got it used, maybe the price was abit too high but it was my first guitar so its alright

I recently bought a vintage wraith frome the metal axxe series. It was £250, which must be something like $400 roughly, but I think guitars generally cost more in the UK. i would recommend it, you get alot for your money - a bc rich in that price range would be pretty shite in my opinion (UK prices). A bit top heavy, but you get used to it.

http://www.jhs.co.uk/metalaxxe.html if you're interested

yea i live in england aswell, and guitars really are twice as expensive, anyways i really hate vintages, , they feel extremely cheap. you should have got a maverick

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B.
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not a cheap one though you can only get a rather utterly shit sound out of it.
jacksons and ibnaezs make alright lead guitars on stage and they feel comfortable of course.

something i wouldnt go for is a gibson. LPs are incredibly heavy (weight wise that is ) and unbalanced, and flying V is of course physically impossible to sit down with.

but yeah, a BC warlock does me fine both for standing and sitting down, feels light, very good sound, and looks nothing short of killer!!!!

yea but the warlock is only good when custom made...it looks good but everyone has one so its kinda not so cool anymore. the only good warlock on the b.c. rich site is the mick thompson nj signature series...Flying V's are amazing, u dont have to sit down with a guitar, but Alexi Laiho's guitars are awesome! I saw the Kerry King nj signature series at the b.c. rich site and it looked fucking drop dead amazing.

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I've been wondering about Deans, I believe Nile plays them. For death metal, I like the Ibanez RG370DX or any Jackson. Or...basically anything light and with thin, fast neck and some EMGs. I've also been wondering about Carvins and Fernandes.

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I have not tryed a BC.Rich yet who was of good qualety considering the price. They are crap in my opinion. The expensiver ones may be decent, but you get better guitar from other brands for a better price.
Jackson are good.
Gibson makes very good guitar. The LP may not be the eaziest to play and solo with, but the sound is sweet! The SG is very good to play, but the gayband named HIM use it, so it's out of question for me when playing metal. Haven't tried the Flying V, but if it isn't neckheavy, I think it is a dream guitar.

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this is the metal guitar to get. ibanez rg 570.

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i'll sell ya my rg 370 dx, if you're interested. just over a month old, like new condition but with upgraded pickups (the 2 humbuckers are the ones they put in the prestige line.. v8 and v7) and better pots than the korean ones. new hard case too.

oops here a pic of my 370 dx. this is before i swapped pickups, which i did last night.

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here

Pretty stupid if you don't like an guitar just because a band you don't like plays it.

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well.... would you play a K-7?? or a Tom Delonge strat??

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Well the guy in HIM doesn't have a signature model like the guys in Korn or Blink 182, he just plays Gibson guitars. A lot of bands play with SGs just because HIM plays a sort of Gibson doesn't mean it sucks. Plus I saw a HIM video and he was playing a Flying V, so I guess you hate Flying Vs too? Hey, you breathe the same oxygen and walk on the same ground that he does, so you probally want kill yourself so you can be diffent from him now huh jackass?

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I'd never play Delonge Strat cuz i hate fender necks but i've tried a K-7 and its pretty solid but that U-bar tremelo system is kinda not neccessary.

Yeah I hate Fender necks too.

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Hell i don't like anything Fender

kinda porves that they have no idea what their doing, makes me wonder why they even have floyd's besides the fact that their so cool. If you dont like anything fender than dont ever play a jackson... fender owns them you know

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well okay i like jackson...

I did not say I did not like the guitar, I love it, and I may buy it one day. The thing I said was that I would never go on stage with it, when playing with my black metal band, because I do not fit. SG is the HIM guitar over here. Every goth's dream guitar.

The Darkness use Gibson LP, and I don't hate gibson LP because of that. I want a LP.
Dimmu Borgir use Jackson, and I don't hate Jackson because of that. I own a jackson.

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i hate HIM so much, you wouldnt believe how many people listen to them in my school. its like they think theyre all underground by listening to a finnish band

jackson rr is THE metal guitar

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o was thinking about buying a RAN guitar next time but jackson is also interesting, the SL-3 for example.

jacksons are good for metal. depends. if you want to shred, they're pretty good, but i'd still say a high end rg or jem or something would be better. the edge/edge pro trems are just incredible.

I have an Ibanez RG T42, and a BC Rich NJ series Warlock. they both retail new for about £500, and the pickups are shit on both of them. The Ibanez now has EMG 81s in the bridgea nd neck, and when I can afford it the Warlock will get similar treatment, but possibly an 85 in the neck for a bit of variation.

I used to own a couple of low end Jacksons (Performer and X series), which were solid guitars, but cheap licenced floyd Roses let them down, and the pickups of course sucked. My next axe will be a Jackson tho, the EdgePro II trem on my Ibanez was breaking strings since the day I bought it, although it seems to have settled down of late. My BC Rich turns me on and then off again so quickly sometimes I still can't decide if I like it, but I can say in terms of returning to pitch, the trems on both these axes kick ass.

Jackson tho, gotta be an RR1....

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I play a Gibson SG Special. It's pretty good and I play everything from classical to Death Metal on it.

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metal guitar-
its made out of metal
its metal guitar , durrr

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Not a stock RR, they have yet to release a economy RR with 24 frets and a floyd. They only have some shitty performer pos.

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That sonvabitch must be heavy. Plus, how would it work with Emgs... ick.



Huh?

Well, it all depends on you. I like a bright, Megadeth kind of tone unless I use my seven string which I when I want fuzz. I own shit guitars and shit amps and they are beauties. The seven string is kind of hard to get used to, but you will benefit a lot from it when you play a six string (bending, etc.). I refuse to buy anymore signature models since they piss me off. Same with guitars with a floyd... god I hate floyds now. I like ebony fretboards, basswood guitars, and strat bodies. You may be different. As for a "metal guitar", I could rock out on a fucking cheap ass Squier Tele and have it sound okay. Pick-ups is what you should be worrying about more. Get something your comfortable with. Then look at the options: fretboard, pickups, tone/volume knobs, where pickup switch is (I hate LP's because of this), etc. It's all about YOUR taste, not Joe Bullshit's taste. That's why Dimebag uses an SS amp. Check out a Charvel Journeyman and the Ibanez Mike Mushowhateverthehellhisnameis signature model (I could deal with this since I don't think it has his name on it somewhere too noticeable.)

thats what i do, i just replaced the single coil with a mini humbucker, a SD lil' 59. i love my tele, it has an awesome sound, and i love the tele body style, i just wish it had 24 frets.

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hmm that's strange. the strings were breaking on the bridge side? did you tighten the clamps too much? i have a 370dx with the edge pro 2, and i haven't had any string break problems with it. i've always had trem guitars, first one was an ibanez strat copy with a floyd, so maybe i'm just good at not tightening it too much. i've heard of lots of people messing it up that way.

my 570 with the edge trem is awesome, though. maybe it's just me, but i don't have problems with string breaks on that either. i have a light touch, maybe you smash your fists into your strings or something. but it's worked great for me. it's the best floyd you can get, at least as good as an OFR. better than the edge pro imo.. they started using non-locking studs just like they use in the ep2. anything that isn't locking will compromise the stability.

the 1570's edge pro is pretty good, though. they came up with some new stuff and they seem to be quite stable. i'd say the edge and edge pro are just about the same.

Thats due to a poorly set up bridge, used to happen to me alot.

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you dont need to cut ball ends on edge pro, do you have to do that on edge?

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Uhh yeh, you have to cut the ball ends off the Edge Pro also

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its saids in my ibanez (!) catalogue that you dont have to!

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Maybe your bridge is different then. I dont know.
Maybe your just putting the strings on so the ball end is at the headstock like that.
Once again, I dont know.

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Thats nice, ive seen guitars with the edge pro and the balls ends are cut off.

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I own an edge pro and know that you need to cut'em unless you do the headstock thing.

There's really no such thing as the true "metal guitar". It's mostly in the pickups and amps. Like, by look, one would say I have metal equipment, I have an ESP EX, an MT-2 (rocks), a wah, a marshall amp... I play absolutely everything... I rock out on Bryan Adams, AFI, Black Sabbath, Foreigner, I write punk songs next to my metal songs, along with Power ballads, "viking metal" songs, as my friend would like our project to be. etc. etc. etc. so the metal guitar is a label, what you do with it decides what that guitar is.

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I like ESP and Jackson for metal, pretty cool ones, specially jacksons...RR models are nice, so as the kelly and no more words for the soloist, amazin guitars...but i also think that ibanez and PRS are pretty versatil, they are pretty modeled to everything...well not soooooooooooo much to metal but they sound opretty nice...thats my opninion but i dont play too much metal thats why i mentioned prs....i would say fender but ha.....you would kill me....telecasters are preeeetty nice...

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It doesn't matter what kind of guitar you own, it's what you do with it. I have a Gibson Les Paul Standard loaded with EMG 81's and a Hamer Eclipse foreign model with stock pick ups...they both kick ass. If you get a guitar over 500 US dollars you are getting a quality axe. Now you just have to play good. Although, if I had to recommend a guitar I would say get a HAMER. The US made ones absolutley slay anything.

the new joe satriani models are pretty sweet.

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what headstock thing is necessary to not have to cut the ball ends off?

i have an edge pro 2 and didn't cut the balls off. i just let the balls hang down a bit so they weren't touching the bridge.. just like they weren't there basically. they're in the little ball saddle things down there. seems like a good spot to me, they never had any trouble.

i mostly use my 570 with the edge, though, and my first guitar was an ibanez strat copy w/a floyd, so i'm used to cutting the balls off.. it's NO big deal lol. not at all.

ohh man... why would you put EMGs in a les paul?

or do you mostly like the lp for looks?

to me, lps have always been a sacrifice for playability which yields sweet, sweet tones. EMGs sound the same in any guitar, so you don't hear the LPs voice anywhere.

i had a gibby lp that i sold off last month.. kept the pups stock and they still rocked. if i get another one some day.. i'll be puttin passives in there.

it's my opinion, though, that active pups are totally overrated. they sound the same all the time, it just bores me. i'm a huge fan of dimarzio.

my rg570 with tone zone and air norton combo has some killer tones, and it's unlike most guitars. the squeals, the chugs, fast runs, they all sound so cool.

maybe i just got tired of the EMG sound.. you can always tell when they're being used.

a tone zone or duncan jb at the bridge of a les paul.. now there's a hot sound.

Yeah I agree with you, EMGs are kind of generic sounding.

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yeah, generic.. that's not necessarily bad, but when you have a guitar with a mohagany body and set mohagany neck.. that awesome tone doesn't make a difference. it ends up sounding the same as it would if you had a $50 plywood guitar

it is a cool sound though. harmonics rock with actives.

Although actives will sound similar in a cheap guitar as opposed to an expensive one, the more expensive one will always sound much better. But the two guitar both with the same passive pickups, that a different story...

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I like my Jem with the DiMarzio evos. Even for metal...My guitars all have EMGs and its real boring.

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Damn, you lucky bitch! How much did you pay for the Jem??

JB ALL THE WAY!

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actually all the kick ass sound comes from talent heh

but anyway, i never played the K-7 so I dont know how it sounds. I agree with Moonraven, who cares who plays it. But it depends on what kind of sound you want. I personally dislike B.C Rich. Ibanez is good, Gibson is really good, Jackson is good especially for metal and PRS is another one I like. I never really played an ESP but dont ever buy one with EMG-Hz's in it, a lot of esp's are comming with those now-a-days.

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ESP's are startin to put emg actives in there shit stock now even the lower model ltd's like the eclipse, which is still an ltd but around 800 bucks.

Why would you buy a signature guitar from a shit band like korn?? You can get the same guitar wuithout eh useless u bar bullshit.. and without the lam k-7 shit all over it. Oh it also cost aobut half the price

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but hell why would anybody buy gibson or prs? go get a custom shop hand-built for the same price that they charge for their factory made guitars. sure, they're good guitars, but they charge hand-made prices for things they crank out of their factory.. it's ridiculous. for $2500 you can get a simply BETTER les paul or custom 24. not that they're bad, they're awesome guitars, but a completely hand-built guitar will even blow a gibson or prs away, and it's the same price. i'd go shamray over another gibson or prs.

and im not so much a hater.. i had a gibby lp that i recently sold because it just wasn't that good to justify having it around when i've got a kid on the way. for factory jobs, an ibanez takes the cake. i love my rg 570. manufacturing quality is just as good for the japanese models, but it's at least 1/2 the price.

I agree. Hand built guitars have a superior sound. For the price of a Gibson CNC built guitar you could get 2 custom handmade Ran guitars from Poland.

My Ran guitar is the best sounding metal guitar I have ever had. Never again will I buy a exspencive CNC built guitar. Ran guitars even play better than the Jackson USA KV-1 I had before and are far cheaper too. God bless Ran guitars! I wish I could but stock in Ran.

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I have stock in Wrigley's gum...


but yeah, congrats on that axe...sounds like a second wife Only it knows when to keep its mouth shut and speak when spoken to! Just kidding too much coffee for me

I like my new Ibanez Jem but I would not mind buying a Ran next. I have a problem with buying guitars and not amps...so my next purchase has to be an amp. But a Ran is tempting

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I cant belive you have a JEM but no amp lol

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