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Old 2002-03-10, 18:19
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black metal isn't all the same. i mean do Emperor sound like Darkthrone? NO

same with death metal, do Deicide sound like Arch Enemy? no

do Napalm Death sound like Cock And Ball Torture? NO

all bands i compared are labelled in a same genre but sound different. Cradle may not be like Darkthrone or Burzum or Mayhem but they're still Black..... well before From The Cradle To Enslave anyway.
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Old 2002-03-10, 19:39
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I think From the Cradle is still pretty black. Not as black as dusk... but still. And Midian is more or less black. BSTS, however, is not black at all, but pop(well, maybe not pop, but not black). That last album does kinda reek of "ooh i'm so famous, that whatever the fuck i do, everyone will like it". I just hope they'll lose that attitude.
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Old 2002-03-10, 21:29
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That's what I meant, CURRENT CoF is not BM. The old stuff is more BM then the current stuff. But, I LOVE the current stuff they do aswell as the old stuff, Cradle of Filth are just well.. entertaining and still thought provoking.
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Old 2002-03-10, 23:38
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"Cradle of Filth are still as underground as fuck, fellas"

Hahaha,oh god.

And no,Dimmu Borgir isn't Black Metal. Wannabe,why don't you take a trip over to England and say Cradle of Filth isn't underground. Haha. You'd be ashamed of what you've said.
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Old 2002-03-11, 19:33
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its still safe to say 90+% of the UK population (and Ireland) hate Cradle Of Filth.

also i don't think From The Cradle To Enslave is black because the title track is as mainstream as they've got. also Perverts Church is shite. Aside from that EP i love everything COF have done. Midian was a masterpiece and Bitter Suites material wise was alright but it was regurgitated old material that should have been left untouched (especially Black Goddess which now unfortunately sucks).
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Old 2002-03-11, 22:15
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Eh, gotta point there.
I know a lot of people in America that actually hate them. I went to see Cradle of Filth once, and Im serious, all I saw there in the crowd, where little teens with short hair wearing Independant shirts and Shorty's sweaters and skater shorts and shoes,etc.
It was rather dissapointing.
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Old 2002-03-12, 01:36
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"Cradle of Filth are still as underground as fuck, fellas"

Hahaha,oh god.

And no,Dimmu Borgir isn't Black Metal. Wannabe,why don't you take a trip over to England and say Cradle of Filth isn't underground. Haha. You'd be ashamed of what you've said.



Haha, oh god, what? Do your kitty phrasings have an underlying point?

Dimmu Borgir is also black metal, for any sane people. Oh, well of course they do have that almost undisputed classic rock sound though, don't they? How chillingly they sound like ac/dc. Jesus, why don't you split some hairs, Ace.

Perfect fucking example of genre abuse. My friend was right about that. A person can be anal about that shite.

Ok. I'll go to England and say, "Cradle of Filth aren't underground". Then what will they say? Yes, you are correct. Jesus, I wish you could spit out what you mean in your own statement. But I take into consideration you are a 'tard. I know what you mean. But I don't live in the U.K buddy. How about you travel to North America and ask someone who Cradle of Filth is. As a matter of fact, ask them if they know what black metal is. I was only taking into consideration, the most influential country in the world's view on the subject......in which case they are still pretty fucking underground.
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Old 2002-03-12, 01:46
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I went to see Cradle of Filth once, and Im serious, all I saw there in the crowd, where little teens with short hair wearing Independant shirts and Shorty's sweaters and skater shorts and shoes,etc.
It was rather dissapointing.


Oh, I know what ya mean, dood. It disappoints me as well. I mean what's the genre coming to? The fans weren't wearing "goat sacrificing" ensembles. Plus their hair wasn't long like it's supposed to be. We can't let anyone break the unwritten dress code, can we? Oh, well now we have perfect justification as to why they suck now....look at the rejects in the audience. Whew! I'm tired from my brilliant, well-thought-out deduction. I'm going to get some rest. Maybe tomorrow I can make someone else dumber.
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I hope you still rate Limbonic Art as black metal, because I think that their 'Pits Of The Cold Beyond' is one of the best black metalsongs I've ever heard, next to 'Blashyrkh' by Immortal.
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I hope you still rate Limbonic Art as black metal, because I think that their 'Pits Of The Cold Beyond' is one of the best black metalsongs I've ever heard, next to 'Blashyrkh' by Immortal.


Who did "Pits of the Cold Beyond"?
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Old 2002-03-12, 18:21
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look as for Cradle Of Filth all i gotta say is listen to "Queen Of Winter Throned" and if you can still tell me they're shit then there's sumthing wrong with you!!

i'm still at school, aside from my mate Jason EVERYONE else either HATES or hasn't heard of Black Metal, including COF. That still makes them underground.
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everyone in my school looks at me weirdly when i mention cof or cc. Thy're like "Cannibal Corpse... oook... you're weird" and then i laugh at them and tell them that staind isn't the heavist band on earth. Damn, i'm an outcast... that sucks...
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RomikQ, tired of being an outcast?
Well, today's your lucky day, just read this and you'll be thuggin' in no time!

(That'll cost you $5.99, bitch...)
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lol...

Scary...
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"Who did "Pits of the Cold Beyond"?"

Limbonic Art. Did I not mention it? Curses!

Staind? what the? but I know what you mean. people here still thing limp bizkit is heavy as fuck. 'not quite' tends to be my understatement-reply, after which I subject them to slightly heavier stuff like, I don't know, say Marduk and Mortician. (heh, just typed 'moretician') 'nuff said.

cradle still doesn't produce popsongs. although I'd like to see Dani when he makes it to 'top of the pops'. I wonder if he'll keep his word and masturbate on stage in front of the british television-viewers. don't think so.

I think things are beginning to change for metal. when even within temptation can make it into the charts over here, well. was kinda funny though. when I went to see them threequarters of the audience were fourteen year-old britney spears-fans. but before within temptation went on they had to endure finntroll. you should've seen their faces! they all went pale and shrieked! (diabolical laughter)

just discovered Insomnium. pretty cool band in the vein of Opeth. not that good just yet, but I think they'll get there.
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hehe, yeah, finntroll is one awesome band!
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they were very good live as well. often bands have a problem playing as good on stage as they do in the studio. I wonder how that can be? (ironic grin)
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BEST BLACK METAL SONG

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, BUT I THINK THAT
VENOM:THE EVIL ONE IS AWESOME,
AS WELL AS VADER: REVELATION OF BLACK MOSES
& THERE ARE SOME GOOD IMMORTAL SONGS, BUT I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAMES OF THEM.
IT'S TOO HARD TO SAY ONE SONG IS THE BEST, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH SO MANY BLACK METAL BANDS.
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I just saw the CoF dvd, pandemonium (spelling). It was teh gayest thing i have ever seen. The lead singer whatever the hell his name is, is such a faq. Its glam in black metal. I dont know if it was just that one particular video, but they made him look so damn gay when he would talk!!
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