I was just equating your idea that since you are from LA or where ever that you are metal because these bands come from there to the idea that since these old people live in Norway, and since like black metal basicly started there and some churches where burned, they are kvlt as fvuk black metallers. I guess that is to deep for you to understand.

Anyway, Exhumed, how could I forget them?

I know we should stay on subect but I can't help but point out how he was talking about how he knows all these underground bands then goes and talks about he bad internet connection and how he can't go looking for bands (yet that is his 'job').

I only have 56k, and I don't get MTV2. I know they have Headbanger's Ball on MTV2 because people lke you are always bragging about the 'newest, heaviest, underground band you saw on MTV2'.

The good old bitching days are back

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whoever said Dillinger Escape plan was on the right track, there are some heavy hardcore bands. Just not in the "i'm gonna play me a real high gained guitar while my drummer blasts your balls with his double bass blast beats that he plays in every song" heavy.

Every Time I Die, Converge, Caliban, December, Norma Jean, Evergreen Terrace, A Jealousy Issue, all some good hardcore bands that are heavy in that hardcore way.

agrophic nosebleed are pretty heavy

and yes, i'd consider Lamb Of God a pretty heavy band, ESPECIALLY on their lastest CD.

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Agoraphobic*

and yeah, they're INSANE

Too many people have different opinions on what "heavy" is, I mean, personally
I think Dream Theater is "heavier" than some really blistering bands.....say like...in example (first band that came to mind) Emperor. I like Emperor, but to me, whatever touches me more is "heavier."

But....meh....who cares, you probably get the point.

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Ihsahn is a very talented musician....I read in a metal magazine that
he has been inspired by solo artists and classical

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I read in a magazine that your gay.

Why didn't you reply to my post bones?

Agoraphobic Nosebleed (in my opinion) isnt the heaviest, by BY FAR the fastest. Now if it not for there drummachine I think it might be a diffrent story. They said they are getting the drummer from Burnt by the Sun who is said to be extremly fast (even though it seems to lack on his records) but im looking forword to seeing that.

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i would say the heaviest bands i listen to are:
DEATH METAL = DERANGED
BLACK METAL = MARDUK

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I could never get into Agoraphobic Nosebleed. I think Anal Cunt is much beter, faster, and heavier. Agoraphobic Nosebleed even stole teh whole idea of putting a bunch of songs on a small format for Anal Cunt. AxCx did it with the 6854 song e.p. where there really where that many songs. See they studio had a 16 track recorder. So tehy recorded a song on each track. So you are hearing 16 songs at once through teh whoplerecord. Well that is if you ever had the pleasure to hear it. The guitar player for Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Pigdestroyer(his name slips me) was in AxCx duringh the recording of "40 More Reasons To Hate Us" but only wrote and rcorded afew of teh songs. He also did a few shows. Anal Cunt is better.

Im not a fan of either of them but ne ofthe guys from anal cunt helped with the drm machine on the Alterted States of America. ANB has 100 beats a second, AC dosent...whos faster? Anyway this is about heavyness so don't anwser this.

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I haven't been online for a while, where did you post?

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Yeah pretend you didnt see the argument, way to make even a bigger ass of yourself.

Immolation is pretty hardcore...

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Incantation is cool, Immolation, Carcass, Tchildres, Cerberus, and
The IRVINE Albertsons Murder are heavy heavy and fast.

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SKINLESS!!!!!!

THese GUYS ARE FUNNY AND BRUTAL!

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Gotta love the Tampon Lollipops


*Gags*




Speaking of which, does anyone know where that intro to that song is from? I think I've heard it before....but I cant recall where.

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Well, i think the whole deathmetal/goregrind sene is fucking heavy. such as:
-Cannibal Corpse.
-Severe Torture (very good band from holland)
-Dead Infection.
- Sikfuk.

But also some blackmetal is heavy:
-Enthroned.
-Marduk.
-Immortal.
-Burzum.

But i don't think that there's a band thats much better/heavyr than another. A band such as Immortal has very intense black metal (diabolical fullmoon mytsicim), but also less heavy (damned in black)

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Practically all their songs have weird intros...

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Severe Torture are pretty fucking heavy.

Severe Torture is great, it´s easier to listen to than Cannibal Corpse...

And the Docter will probally start : Yeah theyre from holland!!!!

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Yeah, I'd prefer Severe Torture over Cannibal Corpse

Cinerary, Brodequin and Sublime Cadaveric Decomposition are also pretty brutal.