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Old 2008-06-17, 06:51
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What song shall I learn next?

Allright, I've found a couple of threads dealing with this, but none of them could realy help me, so I'd be glad for some adivices here.

I just learned Black Sabbath's Paranoid and Iron Man (first solo only so far, but the second one shouldn't be a problem either). Now I don't know, what to learn next (besides my regular practise schedule), and would be glad, if you could name me a few songs, which are slightly more difficult. Please name only full songs, as I don't just want to play a riff from one song, the beginning of a solo from another and so on...
Maybe I should also mention, that I'm mostly into trash and (melodic) death metal, but starting of with some metal classics as Black Sabbath is also great.

And it would be especially coul, if you could make a whole list, like "first learn this, then you should be able to play this" and so on (this would also prevent you from answering the same question in a few days again )

Thanks!

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Old 2008-06-17, 07:19
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So how advanced are you?
Do you want to focus on leads? Rythm?

I'd say..try Slayer Raining Blood if you havent learned that song already.
It's fun, pretty badass song and not tooo hard except for one or two riffs.
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Old 2008-06-17, 07:37
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I like Slayer a lot, so I'll definatly give it a try (although I'm not sure, wheter I can do that extremly fast riff in the intro). Thanks a lot for that one.

Actually, I want to focus on both, rhythm and lead guitar.

I don't know, how advanced I am, cause I have no comparison. Basically I know all the techniques (legato stuff, palm muting, tapping, alternate picking...) and some theory (pentatonics, chords, theory behind modes...).

As for the Black Sabbath songs I mentioned, the rhythm parts there are a lot easier, than the stoff I'm practising beside songs (I guess Raining Blood will be a good challenge). As for the leads, I know I could play slightly more difficult stuff, but I'm also afraid of trying something too hard and getting frustrated

I hope that helps

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Old 2008-06-17, 10:56
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The only riff in that song that really gave me any problems was the third one.
You know, the realy fast one just before the vocals come in that goes

DugadaDugadaDugadaDugada-Neer DugadaDugadaDugadaDugada-Neer-Neer

Slayers riffs aren't that complicated realy, they just play realy fast.
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Old 2008-06-17, 13:59
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i don't know whats funnier...the fact that you just said that...or the fact that i knew which riff you were talking about haha
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Old 2008-06-17, 21:35
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Haha yeah, me too.

To the OP: If you like melodic death I'd go for some Norther. Mirror Of Madness is a pretty fun song, although the solo could give you some trouble.
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Old 2008-06-18, 00:20
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Well, that riffs really damn fast. I practised it, not even close to slayer's speed, and my hands started to hurt realy soon

I guess, it would be good to start out with something else first and use that riff just a speed exercise for now... Norther may be a good idea, thanks for that one!
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Well, that riffs really damn fast. I practised it, not even close to slayer's speed, and my hands started to hurt realy soon

I guess, it would be good to start out with something else first and use that riff just a speed exercise for now... Norther may be a good idea, thanks for that one!


Try out some Death.
Simple enough riffs and rythm, but challenging enough to keep you intrested.
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Old 2008-06-18, 05:30
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Thanks for that one as well. Any Death songs, you'd suggest?

And what about the solos? Are they very hard?
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Old 2008-06-18, 12:34
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Spirit Crusher, Crystal Mountain, Individual Thought Patterns

Crystal Mountain has relatively easy solo in it too.
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Old 2008-06-19, 04:24
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Those songs are all good.

I'd also reccomend Pull the Plug, The Philosopher, Open Casket, Lack of Comprehension..
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Old 2008-06-19, 16:30
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I would try some megadeth dude. There newer stuff is alot easier and dave's solos are always easy. I would'nt go for marty's thought. A good song riff wise from them is architecture of aggression. For solos I would go with Daves solo in sweating bullets. It's challenging but kinda easy plus you will feel like a totall badass while playing it.

I bet some Iron maiden riffs will improve you as a player aswell.
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Old 2008-06-20, 04:06
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Ok, I tried to put the metioned songs in a list, starting from the easiest song and ending up with the hardest one. So my learning plan then would be:

Death - Crystal Mountain
Megadeath - Sweating Bullets
Death - Pull The Plug
Norther - Dream
Arch Enemy - We Will Rise
Iron Maiden - The Trooper
Death - Lack of Comrehension
Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills
Slayer - Rainin Blood

Ok, this should keep me busy for a while and I'm looking forward to be able to play all that songs Still, if you have some ideas of songs that could be addet to the list it would be cool. So far, thanks for all the help!

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Old 2008-06-21, 09:42
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The only riff in that song that really gave me any problems was the third one.
You know, the realy fast one just before the vocals come in that goes

DugadaDugadaDugadaDugada-Neer DugadaDugadaDugadaDugada-Neer-Neer

Ahh fuck that's funny
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Old 2008-06-21, 10:26
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Slayers riffs aren't that complicated realy, they just play realy fast.


If you don`t get it , just noodle around at the first 6 frets low Eb
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Old 2008-06-21, 13:08
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If you don`t get it, just noodle around at the first 6 frets low Eb


I'd recommend Slayer - Postmortem as well. Or Angel of Death.
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Old 2008-06-21, 13:48
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Well, for Slayer I still have to work on my speed... (since I don't just want to noodle around )

Btw, I wondered if there were any easy Arch Enemy songs (I'd prefere those from the new album or the older stuff, before Wages of Sin)?
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Old 2008-06-21, 14:18
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Arch Enemy is easy as shit to play on guitar. Sometimes i wonder y Jeff Loomis looks up to Michael Amot so much (spelling?) Carcass was good though.
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Old 2008-06-21, 15:05
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Hmm, if you find everything from Arch Enemy easy, that doesn't really give me an idea of where to start

Anyway, I've learned all the rhythm parts of Crystal Mountain by now and just wanted to progress to the solo now. Before it starts, there is a passage and I was wondering, whether it is picked, played by pull offs or tapped. Maybe anyone knows?
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Old 2008-06-22, 02:54
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Sorry, We Will Rise is easy as balls and the solo is aswell. Good luck.
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