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Old 2008-04-07, 07:02
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Writing my Song, Got to a Problem

hey i've written some really cool sounding riffs, but i've put a couple by each other n my song n there's just a drastic tone change n i can't fix that....
any suggestions?
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Old 2008-04-07, 07:46
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Did you write only for guitar, or for multiple instruments?
Changes in a song usualy sound better if there is one or two instruments 'carrying' that change.

It doesn't work straight out of the box, you need to tweak everything a little, but this usualy works okay:

Guitar part a -> Guitar Part b -> Guitar part b
Drum beat a -> Drum beat a -> Drum beat b

or


Guitar part a -> Guitar Part a -> Guitar part b
Drum beat a -> Drum beat b -> Drum beat b

This works, because it sounds like it's still the same song, rather than two seperate ones.
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Old 2008-04-07, 14:54
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haha there is that, or the easiest explanation, they are in different keys.
Tab out the riffs you have written, i can tweak them for you if you want. Transition riffs also help, makes thing sound a lot less confusing
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haha there is that, or the easiest explanation, they are in different keys.
Tab out the riffs you have written, i can tweak them for you if you want. Transition riffs also help, makes thing sound a lot less confusing


off/different key, different time signatures, etc.. It's all workable if you work on the transitions.

Especialy progressive type songs have some strange time or key changes in them..
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Old 2008-04-11, 07:17
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Yea I read up on some musical theory, I learned about the keys n crap, Lol I'm just suprised it took me 1 1/2 of playin to look intno that stuff, but anyway, I found out how to find what key it is it

But i got a problem:

Here's an example:
B has 5 sharps (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#)
But there was only C#, G#, D#, and A#

does that make it E Key or B?
But then it's missing one for B
but has one that's not in the key for E...

Yea so thanks guys
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Yea I read up on some musical theory, I learned about the keys n crap, Lol I'm just suprised it took me 1 1/2 of playin to look intno that stuff, but anyway, I found out how to find what key it is it

But i got a problem:

Here's an example:
B has 5 sharps (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#)
But there was only C#, G#, D#, and A#

does that make it E Key or B?
But then it's missing one for B
but has one that's not in the key for E...

Yea so thanks guys


You don't need to use every note of a scale to be in it.

If it's a bit ambiguous which key, mode or scale you are playing in, it all kinda depends what other instruments play, or what happends after the part.

Edit: to clarify a bit more, it's a bit like chords.
For example, a conventional Major chord will have on the very least a root, third and fifth, with optional octaves.

Now, officialy, it's not a major chord if it doesn't have a fifth. But if you only play the root and third, it'll still kinda sound like that chord. Because our ears kinda fill in the blanks with what we expect.
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Old 2008-04-12, 12:33
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Yea I read up on some musical theory, I learned about the keys n crap, Lol I'm just suprised it took me 1 1/2 of playin to look intno that stuff, but anyway, I found out how to find what key it is it

But i got a problem:

Here's an example:
B has 5 sharps (F#, C#, G#, D#, A#)
But there was only C#, G#, D#, and A#

does that make it E Key or B?
But then it's missing one for B
but has one that's not in the key for E...

Yea so thanks guys



You're not writing classical music, so you often can't just analyze it like that. Metal doesn't follow the same rules as the classical music. Instead of looking at the sharps and flats, you should just try to find out what key it is in by ear.
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pretty sure that's the exact same thing. Listen to it by ear to figure out what notes to play in the key that it's in...to figure out the sharps and flats you need to play?
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Old 2008-04-16, 16:08
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Yea this is a song I'm writing so I can't listen to it by ear yet
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