MetalTabs.com - your source for Metal tabs
Home Forum What's New Submit a Tab FAQ Links Contact Us Link to Us


Go Back   MetalTabs.com Forum > MetalTabs.com > Chit Chat
User Name
Password


 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:31
kObwEb's Avatar
kObwEb kObwEb is offline
New Blood
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Deep in the belly of the beast
Posts: 35
Send a message via AIM to kObwEb
racist metal??

i just got marduks infernal eternal and on the inside cover theres a big picture of a german cross with a pentagram in the middle, are these guys damn nazis?
although i have some of their songs on my computer i regret spending 20 bucks on their cd because the songs start to sound the same and repetitive.
__________________
Movements in the dark
Constrict the thoughts of cognition,
Weve drifted into an abyss of dire blindness,
Theres no turning back,
The mirror casts the reflection black,

The pain lets me know Im not dead yet...
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:33
slayme_returns's Avatar
slayme_returns slayme_returns is offline
BUY OUR FIRST RELEASE $5
Alumni Staff
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Tejas
Posts: 2,534
Send a message via AIM to slayme_returns
I bet they are nazis, just like those god damn motherfuckers in Slayer.
















Carry the iron cross.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:41
Argos Argos is offline
Metalhead
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 79
Tons of bands use Iron/Maltese crosses for one thing or another. It doesn't mean they are racists. Where the did you get that from? I don't get this connection people make with the Iron Cross and Nazism.

Marduk are a very WWII influenced band. Tons of their stuff has to do with WWII (especially the German side) - but as far as I know they're not a Nationalist band.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:42
Judas-Iscariot Judas-Iscariot is offline
New Blood
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Posts: 17
Send a message via AIM to Judas-Iscariot
Yep, they are probably Nazi's.
I can't think of many anti-racist black metal bands...
Absu has a Native American member...
Other than that my mind draws a blank.
__________________
http://brumalis.cjb.net
Brumalis. Hateful Black Metal

www.burzum.com
Burzum. Nuff said.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:45
PST 88 PST 88 is offline
Forum Daemon
Forum Leader
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,980
There must be. There are CHRISTIAN black metal bands, for Christ's sake!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:48
slayme_returns's Avatar
slayme_returns slayme_returns is offline
BUY OUR FIRST RELEASE $5
Alumni Staff
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Tejas
Posts: 2,534
Send a message via AIM to slayme_returns
Quote:
Originally posted by Argos
Tons of bands use Iron/Maltese crosses for one thing or another. It doesn't mean they are racists. Where the did you get that from? I don't get this connection people make with the Iron Cross and Nazism.

Marduk are a very WWII influenced band. Tons of their stuff has to do with WWII (especially the German side) - but as far as I know they're not a Nationalist band.



You're right, using the cross doesn't brand you a nazi, but to say that you can't understand the connection between the Iron Cross and nazism is fucking ignorant.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 2002-12-08, 23:53
Argos Argos is offline
Metalhead
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 79
Ignorant? Get out you history books and do some research on the Iron Cross. There would be a much looser connection if people knew what the fuck they were talking about before they associated it with Nazism.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 2002-12-09, 00:18
PST 88 PST 88 is offline
Forum Daemon
Forum Leader
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,980
You have to assume that people are going to associate it with Nazis before Malta. It was the Knights of the Order of St John of Jerusalem or something, right? What do you think they know more about? You're being ignorant of human nature if you think that they will associate something with an obscure bit of historical trivia before something as famous as, say, World War II. That's why you're ignorant.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 2002-12-09, 02:01
far_beyond_sane's Avatar
far_beyond_sane far_beyond_sane is offline
You gamma-minus fucktards
Forum Leader
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Sydney.
Posts: 4,674
I'll return to this topic and reply seriously when there's something to reply to.
__________________
far_beyond_sane - contributing to the moral decay of your children since 1982

"It was some kind of evolutionary glitch, she figured; no different than the other unreasonable side effects of consciousness and emotion, like religion and rap music."
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 2002-12-09, 15:45
Jarhead
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
basically nothing should be directly related to nazism except the red flag with the white circle with the Naziswastika in it. pretty much all "signs" of nazism were stolen from other cultures.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 2002-12-09, 16:00
CtHuLhU DaWn's Avatar
CtHuLhU DaWn CtHuLhU DaWn is offline
Supreme Metalhead
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 756
Send a message via AIM to CtHuLhU DaWn
Thats the most intelligent comment in this thread guys, Hail JArhead.
(i'm being serious, well done)
__________________
well maybe for you ...maybe you don't know shit that's why - LØRD MALPHAS
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 2002-12-09, 16:04
slayme_returns's Avatar
slayme_returns slayme_returns is offline
BUY OUR FIRST RELEASE $5
Alumni Staff
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Tejas
Posts: 2,534
Send a message via AIM to slayme_returns
Quote:
Originally posted by Jarhead
basically nothing should be directly related to nazism except the red flag with the white circle with the Naziswastika in it. pretty much all "signs" of nazism were stolen from other cultures.



Wrong. Symbols that the nazi's adopted are now related to nazism, forever.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 2002-12-09, 16:14
CtHuLhU DaWn's Avatar
CtHuLhU DaWn CtHuLhU DaWn is offline
Supreme Metalhead
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 756
Send a message via AIM to CtHuLhU DaWn
Yeah but they shouldnlt be.
__________________
well maybe for you ...maybe you don't know shit that's why - LØRD MALPHAS
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 2002-12-09, 16:16
slayme_returns's Avatar
slayme_returns slayme_returns is offline
BUY OUR FIRST RELEASE $5
Alumni Staff
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Tejas
Posts: 2,534
Send a message via AIM to slayme_returns
Of course they shouldn't be, but it's a reality.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 2002-12-09, 16:28
CtHuLhU DaWn's Avatar
CtHuLhU DaWn CtHuLhU DaWn is offline
Supreme Metalhead
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Scotland
Posts: 756
Send a message via AIM to CtHuLhU DaWn
Reality Bites, thats why we have METALTABS!
__________________
well maybe for you ...maybe you don't know shit that's why - LØRD MALPHAS
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 2002-12-09, 17:30
Jarhead
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
and phone sex! like anyone with a sexy voice like that would let any of us fat fucks bang her
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 2002-12-09, 19:24
xDarkestHourx xDarkestHourx is offline
Senior Metalhead
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Atlanta, Ga, USA
Posts: 153
Send a message via AIM to xDarkestHourx
you were talkin about how the only symbol that should be associated with the Nazi party was the swastika inside the red and white...hell, they even stole that from someone else, honestly it escapes me now. But I remember it bein like a sign of good luck that one culture used to put on gravestones

Cheers,
xx
__________________
"As Horrifying as Being Raped by a Grizzly Bear in Front of a Full Body Mirror" one of my many song titles
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 2002-12-09, 19:30
Jarhead
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
no, justy the swastika itself was stolen. it was reversed and made into the gay lil piece of shit that it is
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 2002-12-10, 13:06
A Drowning Mind A Drowning Mind is offline
New Blood
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Germäny
Posts: 21
Send a message via AIM to A Drowning Mind
don't forget all those rune stuff..like the SS and SA...btw the swastika was an asian sun symbol, watch "the one armed boxer vs. the flying guillotine" (best movie ever made) that guy even got a big fat swastika on his clothes...

btw i doubt marduk are nazi, they are merely dumb enough to think it's kool cause it`s evil..i met the guys backstage, they are pretty damn shy, and didn`t seem that brutal and evil like they were on stage
__________________
Dubdidu. Huhaho.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 2002-12-10, 13:42
Lord Malphas
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
some symbols were stolen from Greek Culture I think...
Reply With Quote


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 22:09.


========

Contact Us | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer
Copyright © 2001-2009 MetalTabs.com. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.