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Old 2005-08-29, 16:22
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Your thinking of Jennifer Batten who did Flight of the Bumble-Bee that was all 8-finger tapping. The Great Kat is known for her various covers of Vivaldi, Wagner, Paganini, Bach, and Beethoven. I don't ever recall her playing anything from Rimsky-Korsakov. Though she is very talented because she's a virtuoso on the violin and guitar.


No i am for sure, at one point, it was the great kat in the books for flight of the bumblebee. But as i said, that was a while ago.

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theres a big difference between petrucci only being able to do a complicated scale run at 216 and a band like severed savior or cannibal corpse playing pretty simple riffs, real fast


And your wrong, the run he was doing was the simplest possible run you can muster up. It was just a chromatic 1234 on the 12th fret with distortion. He changed it up a little later in the run, but he stopped before he even got to that point.

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Old 2005-08-29, 16:26
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I never calculated my speed on this, all I know is that I can play pretty darn fast and not stop for a long time..My friends say that my hand is blurry when I'm grinding...so..It's probably above 220 or better...who knows really.. I think by learning old school Slayer..Reign in blood..has helped me achieve some good speed..
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Old 2005-08-29, 16:27
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And your wrong, the run he was doing was the simplest possible run you can muster up. It was just a chromatic 1234 on the 12th fret with distortion. He changed it up a little later in the run, but he stopped before he even got to that point.


What about all the other things we pointed out ...
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Old 2005-08-29, 16:35
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What about all the other things we pointed out ...


I wish i knew what you were talking about. The kid said that the petrucci run was complicated, and all i said was it wasnt, which was true.

But i seriously don't understand how you can say petrucci can play 32nd notes at 130 (16ths at 260 i would assume) on some song when it is proven on rock discipline that he couldn't even touch 216 with a freakin chromatic scale. That just proves that your math somewhere is wrong. You guys need to just go to your metronome and see what i am talking about. And if anything, try to get some teacher or serious guitar player to be there too, cause so many people may THINK they can pick or whatever over 200 16th notes when in reality they are missing notes or getting that 'click' from the string. Just go and get the chromatic scale, the old 1234 all the way up the same box. I would commend anyone who can get it anywhere over 215, which is incredibly fast. I will say, Farreri and Cooley can probably reach speeds of say that exercise up to 230. But thats as fast as i am going to believe or ever believe unless i see someone get a metronome and do it.
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Old 2005-08-29, 16:44
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maybe petrucci should take the piss test.
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ibut i wouldnt get any help at a slipknot board, theyre struggling with palm muting!
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Old 2005-08-29, 19:45
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Are you an idiot? I think you are an idiot, but I'm wondering if you know it too.

I guess I should have put in the [sarcasm] in the beginning to clarify that's what the post was. It was a poor attempt none the less. I guess I should've made it a little more obvious like playing 16ths at 400 bpm. Even if I was serious why would you feel the need to insult me?

Anyways, I'll post a clip of my fastest playing as soon as I can find some time. It obviously won't be at the speed I mentioned in one of my earlier posts.

madtrixcerenzia:
Yeah, I think your right. I had to look at her cd's to see what you were talking about. On her "Digital Beethoven on Cyberspeed" cd she plays Rimsky-Korsakov's Flight of the Bumblebee. I haven't listened to it yet, but I imagine it's pretty fast.

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Old 2005-08-29, 21:25
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I guess I should have put in the [sarcasm] in the beginning to clarify that's what the post was. It was a poor attempt none the less. I guess I should've made it a little more obvious like playing 16ths at 400 bpm. Even if I was serious why would you feel the need to insult me?

Anyways, I'll post a clip of my fastest playing as soon as I can find some time. It obviously won't be at the speed I mentioned in one of my earlier posts.

madtrixcerenzia:
Yeah, I think your right. I had to look at her cd's to see what you were talking about. On her "Digital Beethoven on Cyberspeed" cd she plays Rimsky-Korsakov's Flight of the Bumblebee. I haven't listened to it yet, but I imagine it's pretty fast.


yeah and if you look in the booklet, i think they mention it made it to the record books. And there is a new development. I believe that the fastest guys out there, namely (and probably only) rusty cooley and farreri can hit speeds up to 240 bpm of 16ths, and thats only four per string with very small stretches. But only those guys, and thats them freaking ripping too.

I still, no matter how much you try, will ever believe some bands like slayer hit freakin 16ths at 260. Thats definately a load of bull. I am sorry, and i dont know how you are measuring it, but there is no way they can hit that high.
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Old 2005-08-29, 21:41
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Maybe around the a little past 210, but thats tremolo picking. I am sorry, but there isn't anyone out there that can alternate pick a run faster than 220, and if they can, its probably like, 222.


Can someone tell me the difference between trem picking and fast alt. picking?
Is tremelo just going nuts alternate picking and not hitting one note every pick?
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Old 2005-08-30, 00:27
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I wish i knew what you were talking about. The kid said that the petrucci run was complicated, and all i said was it wasnt, which was true.


"Do not put words in my mouth! I never said that Cannibal Corpse and the like were faster than Rusty.

Yeah, I've seen Rock Discipline, I used to own it! I also had the official tab book for "Scenes From A Memory", the faster solos had 32nd notes at 130 bpm.

Look at Mysongbook's tab of Blowtorch, its damn accurate. I just gave you that because its a reference. Listen to the drums on that song, its really 268. Listen to some Origin, Decrepit Birth, or Cryptopsy. Its indisputable.

And you could'nt find the song "Dittohead" by Slayer? Slayer pushes over 230 ALL THE TIME. Kerry even talks about it in interviews.

Even the song "Labyrinth" in my link is 240. If you disagree you are stupid, for I programmed the drums and I know exactly what it is.

I just recorded a track that runs at 250 bpm, just to show. Trying to host it now, but if someone wants to just PM me for it I can send it to you.
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... as fast as i am going to believe or ever believe unless i see someone get a metronome and do it.


Ok, that's it. I'm sending you the file I recorded. What's your e-mail?

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Old 2005-08-31, 16:20
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Yeah, this guy ^ sent me a virus instead of the clip. If that was intended, thats pretty childish and you will never get your point across.
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Old 2005-08-31, 16:45
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Yeah, this guy ^ sent me a virus instead of the clip. If that was intended, thats pretty childish and you will never get your point across.

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Old 2005-08-31, 19:11
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And for the record, his little virus didn't make it through. But i can't think of a better way for him to make me believe that he can't pick at 250 bpm then do what he did.
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Old 2005-08-31, 22:07
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Yeah, this guy ^ sent me a virus instead of the clip. If that was intended, thats pretty childish and you will never get your point across.


What the hell? Explain to me how a goddamned .mp3 file was recognized as a "virus". Only .exe files can be viruses.

What happened, most likely, is that Hotmail security said you could'nt have the attachment because its over a megabyte or something. In that case, they would have said that it was a possible 'risk' ... there's no way in hell an mp3 can be a virus. They're about as finicky as airport security guards, not letting you have a nailclipper on the flight or something similiar.

But no matter, resolve the issue with me first before you run around claiming I tried to send you a virus.
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Old 2005-08-31, 22:10
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I merely said, "if you did" and if it was intended that would have been stupid, and would make me believe you much much less. But it appears it wasnt, and this ^ probably is the case. So . . . yeah.
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Old 2005-08-31, 22:13
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Alright, here's the clip.


http://www.digitalsoundplanet.com/M...3_000030617.mp3

Right click, save target as.


The click track is clearly 250 bpm.

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Old 2005-09-01, 03:47
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nice john.

I'm shit, I can probably to the chromatic exercise at 16ths 140 or something.
My tremolo rapidly gets sloppy past about 170
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Old 2005-09-02, 17:12
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uhh, its not working man, it says a connection to the server couldn't be established. Can you just put it on ur myspace or purevolume or something?
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Old 2005-09-02, 17:27
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i can play along cd with necrophagist on extreme unction, and play along diminished to be solo (sumtimes).

but then again, that doesnt say shiit
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Old 2005-09-02, 22:04
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uhh, its not working man, it says a connection to the server couldn't be established. Can you just put it on ur myspace or purevolume or something?


The whole point is to prove I can trem pick at 250 bpm. I don't feel like putting it on the myspace, as I've already broken my balls trying to get it to you. If you doubt me then fatdanny will vouch for me.
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Old 2005-09-02, 22:06
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