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Old 2005-08-26, 16:07
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Shit,

I'm fuckin slow. I can sweep though. My alternate pick is somewhat fast, but nothing of professional status. I'm still working on my picking styles and whatnot, plus it's all about the notes you don't hit.
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Old 2005-08-26, 18:08
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Shit,

I'm fuckin slow. I can sweep though. My alternate pick is somewhat fast, but nothing of professional status. I'm still working on my picking styles and whatnot, plus it's all about the notes you don't hit.


Its not all about speed , and speed will come with experience and practice , Use a metronome , But some of the best guitar players were not speed demons , leslie West for example and David Gilmour , say more with one note than half these schmucks say flying all over the place. Dont get me wrong its good to be fast you can always slow down but speed alone dont make you a great player , its how you get the guitar to sing , phrasing is just as important than just doing shit at mach 10 , Practice and you will get faster but remember it should come with feeling.
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Old 2005-08-26, 21:11
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If I really push myself I can play 16th note triplets at about 210 bpm. That's pushing myself. Other than that I would say my normal speed is about 16th notes at 240 bpm. That's alternate picking. With sweep picking i can do it fast but it's not as clean as i want it to be so I'm basically relearning sweep picking in order to correct the mistakes I made when originally learning it.
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Old 2005-08-26, 21:38
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alright an iggnorant noob has got a stupid question, what do you mean when you say sweep picking?
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Old 2005-08-26, 21:59
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alright an iggnorant noob has got a stupid question, what do you mean when you say sweep picking?

arpeggios in a linear pattern on the fretboard thats done in a sweeping motion up the and down the fretboard with ur pick. for example
usually u only see 3-5 string sweeps in songs
G min. sweep
---------------6h10p6---------------
-------------8---------8------------
-----------7-------------7----------
-------5h8----------------8p5----------
-----5------------------------5------
-3h6----------------------------6p3~----
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Old 2005-08-26, 22:04
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i dont really know how the fuck u would measure this........ but i can probably play as fast as most rusy cooley stuff..... and thats pretty fuckin fast kids. haha
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Old 2005-08-26, 22:14
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I dont know if this means anything, but i don't work on my speed much anymore, i sorta just write and learn now. But there hasn't been anything that i haven't been able to play in the speed category and i have made different stuff up to push my abilities which seem to be pretty hard and fast. So i dont know, i dont waste my time with speed much anymore with the knowledge that i can just work myself up to any speed that i want to. So its never really a barrier, but you will never see me sitting down and straight up shred practicing like probably rusty cooley does.

But thats just me, this thread is probably full of bullshit at the same time. This thread should be 'post your fastest playing'. Anybody can say they are fast, thats the easy part. Actually doing it, and even harder, recording it. So, we should make a thread like that.
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Old 2005-08-26, 22:55
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I dont know if this means anything, but i don't work on my speed much anymore, i sorta just write and learn now. But there hasn't been anything that i haven't been able to play in the speed category and i have made different stuff up to push my abilities which seem to be pretty hard and fast. So i dont know, i dont waste my time with speed much anymore with the knowledge that i can just work myself up to any speed that i want to. So its never really a barrier, but you will never see me sitting down and straight up shred practicing like probably rusty cooley does.

But thats just me, this thread is probably full of bullshit at the same time. This thread should be 'post your fastest playing'. Anybody can say they are fast, thats the easy part. Actually doing it, and even harder, recording it. So, we should make a thread like that.



ok then... start one. id be happy to prove myself
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Old 2005-08-26, 23:38
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ok then... start one. id be happy to prove myself


Alright, thats fine, i wasnt really nessesarily talking about you, i just meant, i am sure there are some people. Thats all. But ok, ill start one, and just like, i dont know, find a way to make a recording. And when i do, then ill make the thread. I just think that would be alot cooler than a bunch of people talking. But if you already have a recording, you should just start the thread, it doesnt really matter. Whatever.
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Old 2005-08-27, 11:05
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If I really push myself I can play 16th note triplets at about 210 bpm. That's pushing myself. Other than that I would say my normal speed is about 16th notes at 240 bpm. That's alternate picking. ....

Are you an idiot? I think you are an idiot, but I'm wondering if you know it too.
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Old 2005-08-27, 15:08
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Umm yeah, ^ perfect example of talk. There is no way he can play that fast, or he would be the fastest guitarist on the planet i believe. Alternate picking 16ths at 240 bpm? Give me a break. Rusty Cooley, Joe Stump, and any other speed freak can't even touch that.

This is why i dont like this thread that much, we need to make that recording thread soon. Ill try my best to get a recording together and others should do the same. And im sure its going to turn into a contest, but i think it should be more of a personal fun thing. Whatever.
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Old 2005-08-27, 17:12
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Rusty Cooley, Yngwie Malmsteen, and others touch sixteenth notes upwards of 240 bpm all the time. Even in Slayer, both King and Hanneman push roughly 220 bpm in their solos. Get a metronome and check what you're hearing when you hear Rusty play, and even better download some powertabs/guitar pro tabs and take a look at those. In metal nowadays its not uncommon to hit those speeds.

Probably the grossest statement to this context was a guitar magazine claiming Steve Morse was the 10th fastest picker in the world, at 210 bpm ... and someone on this forum actually toted it as fact. Quite sad ...

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Old 2005-08-27, 20:21
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Rusty Cooley, Yngwie Malmsteen, and others touch sixteenth notes upwards of 240 bpm all the time. Even in Slayer, both King and Hanneman push roughly 220 bpm in their solos. Get a metronome and check what you're hearing when you hear Rusty play, and even better download some powertabs/guitar pro tabs and take a look at those. In metal nowadays its not uncommon to hit those speeds.

Probably the grossest statement to this context was a guitar magazine claiming Steve Morse was the 10th fastest picker in the world, at 210 bpm ... and someone on this forum actually toted it as fact. Quite sad ...


I am sorry man, i just completely disagree. The fastest i have ever seen was 220 alternate picking. Legato can go up to 240, but thats like only if you do chromatic 1234 all the way up. I am telling you, it doesnt go much over, or near 220, and thats picking very intensly. And i know for a fact malmsteen has never gone over 220 picking, in any of his songs.

If anyone out there can show me one example, then i will believe. But you guys need to just get a metronome out and try it, im telling you, even though they are pros, they dont hit it up that high. So somebody give me one example of "alternate picking" (not sweeping or legato) past, say 130, and since those guys apparently do it 'all the time' it shouldnt be hard to give me an example.
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Old 2005-08-27, 20:36
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Old 2005-08-27, 21:32
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I am sorry man, i just completely disagree. The fastest i have ever seen was 220 alternate picking. Legato can go up to 240, but thats like only if you do chromatic 1234 all the way up. I am telling you, it doesnt go much over, or near 220, and thats picking very intensly. And i know for a fact malmsteen has never gone over 220 picking, in any of his songs.

If anyone out there can show me one example, then i will believe. But you guys need to just get a metronome out and try it, im telling you, even though they are pros, they dont hit it up that high. So somebody give me one example of "alternate picking" (not sweeping or legato) past, say 130, and since those guys apparently do it 'all the time' it shouldnt be hard to give me an example.

I can do tremolo 16ths at 216bpm cold. After warming up, I can do it faster, but my metronome does pass 216bpm. However, different notes for every alternate pick, no, I can't do that past about 130bpm...clean that is....
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who gives a flying fuck about whos faster.
music is about who can play smoother, better, get their idea out.
writing music is harder than just playing scales fast, cuz u have to think.
besides the fastest/best guitarist i've heard out there is steve vai.
when becker was around he was the best guitarist.
nitro was shit as well micheal angelo's writing abillity.
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Old 2005-08-27, 22:25
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who gives a flying fuck about whos faster.
music is about who can play smoother, better, get their idea out.
writing music is harder than just playing scales fast, cuz u have to think.
besides the fastest/best guitarist i've heard out there is steve vai.
when becker was around he was the best guitarist.
nitro was shit as well micheal angelo's writing abillity.


I seriously, dont think not even once, i have ever agreed with a quote, quite as much as this one. Your so young, and you have like the best understanding of music that we talk about here. Steve Vai is my favorite guitarist too, and completely agree with the comments on speed.

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Old 2005-08-27, 23:20
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A couple of years ago, all I did was focus on speed. I'd practice 8+ hours a day, using a metronome, slowly building up to a decent speed.

I can easily play the stuff in the powertab file but as you can see it's all pretty bland. It's good for showing off but not a lot more than that.

I do agree that writing great music, is far better than totally focusing on speed i.e. Francesco Farreri. I hardly ever use shred in my songs, unless it's Mohammed Suicmez style and I put effort into making it sound good.
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why was this thread revived from 3 years ago
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Old 2005-08-28, 07:41
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why was this thread revived from 3 years ago


at least someone used the search function for ones instead of making a new thread about this topic....
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