2007-03-28, 21:18
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I had that exact same setup before. 5150 head w/ the 1960 cab. It sounds great but you're not gonna get super-tight compressed tone w/ out any other effects/pedals/etc. Chances are if you're into death metal, most amps wouldn't sound perfect-to-your-tastes just alone. I used a BOSS Ge-7 eq in the loop and it sounded perfect for most modern metal tones.....also, if you're not familiar with any of these gears, do some research or go out and try them if you can, just so that you're not buying shit that you don't know much about.
EDIT: My rig was a little old, but I sold the whole thing on craigslist for $700 so I'm sure you could get a decent condition one for around that price.
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Thanks a lot for the info dude!!! I have a Boss GE-7 as well and the Boss Commpresion pedal. Not need for a distortion pedal? |
2007-03-28, 21:20
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+1 I'd say look at 5150's if you have the money and pair it with your EQ. Or I'd second the Ampeg VH-140C for a more old-school DM sound.
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I love the old school death metal sound. I did a search on ebay and musicians freinds but I could not find a Ampeg VH-140C. Is that a combo or a 1/2 stack or what? Any links?
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2007-03-28, 21:33
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2007-03-28, 22:22
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The Ampeg is no longer made. That Peavey would be perfect, and if you need to be louder you can add another 2x12. The combos are actually biased hotter than the heads. All you need to worry about as far as that is concerned is that the combos sound better than the heads.
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2007-03-28, 22:46
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What is the difference from:
Speaker: 4 x 12 in. G12T-75 or a GT-75's?
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2007-03-29, 09:54
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The GT-75's are a bit better.
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(Did you know In Flames had a 2005 album called "Come Clarity"? How prophetic. I think they're trying to tell us all their sperm are dead.)
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2007-03-29, 13:16
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IMO from what you've said I'd keep my eyes peeled for an Ampeg VH-140C on Ebay. I think it may be time for Soeru to crack out his list of old-school DM bands that use the Ampeg. It came in head version and 2x12 combo (140w Stereo Solidstate) btw.
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2007-03-29, 13:52
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Suffo on Effigy and Pierced.
Immo on Dawn of Possession.
Gorguts on the first 3 records.
Assuck
Cynic I think.
Atheist probably.
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2007-03-29, 14:01
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Immo? on dawn? i frekin love everything about that album!
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2007-03-29, 19:18
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IMO from what you've said I'd keep my eyes peeled for an Ampeg VH-140C on Ebay. I think it may be time for Soeru to crack out his list of old-school DM bands that use the Ampeg. It came in head version and 2x12 combo (140w Stereo Solidstate) btw.
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The Ampeg VH-140 seems to be what I need. I just read about 100 reviews on some web site and people rave about it.
Would the combo version be as good as the Head with a Marshall cab?
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2007-03-29, 19:18
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Suffo on Effigy and Pierced.
Immo on Dawn of Possession.
Gorguts on the first 3 records.
Assuck
Cynic I think.
Atheist probably.
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2007-03-29, 19:29
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methinks pestilence has too thrashy tone, but hell, that's what you have mids for  |
2007-03-29, 22:43
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methinks pestilence has too thrashy tone, but hell, that's what you have mids for |
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2007-03-30, 08:50
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The combo would kick ass and it's more convenient in some cases than a head and cab, but a head with a good cab will inevitably have lots more bass that will punch you in the chest a lot harder when you palm mute. Ideal for playing live. The combos are actually a bit cheaper than the heads. You could buy a 2x12 and use it as a head with a 4x12, you'd get more volume for less $$$.
Keep your eyes peeled on ebay, they're getting rarer every minute.
I doubt pestilence used the Ampeg, as it wasn't so common in Europe. The amp really sounds like Effigy or Pierced in person supposedly, all those oldschool DM records are said to be extremely true to it's sound cause they weren't studio-processed all that much.
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2007-03-30, 10:25
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2007-03-30, 18:43
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Thanks for all the info guys. At least now I have narrowed it down to either:
Ampeg VH-140C (head and 4x12cab) or the Peavey 5150 (head and 2x12 cab).
From the sound of it I cant go wrong with either one.
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2007-03-30, 19:16
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Try a 5150 first, you CAN go wrong. It has a very distinct characteristic in the mids that can't be dialed out - people either hate or love it..
The 5150 is a great amp, but it's not for everyone.
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2007-03-30, 19:21
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AMPEG AMPEG AMPEG. Buy 2 of them.
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2007-03-31, 03:17
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Must admit I'd prefer the Ampeg too, for some reason I just dislike the 5150's sound. The Ampeg sounds more unique and characterful to my ears.
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2007-04-01, 02:57
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Dying Fetus and Internal Bleeding use Ampegs as well. I don't know about Atheist and Cynic, although they're two of my favorite bands and I can say they do acheive those sounds well. Their known for having a great early 90s death metal sound, but if you're into other stuff the cleans are better than most (especially for a high gain amp) and the mids actually give it a really thick sound if you boost them a bit, so its rather versatile. And loud too, in my old band the guitarist used a 5150 halfstack and many times I had to turn down so he could hear himself, and when he upgraded to a full mine still kept up fine as a halfstack. Comparatively I like the Ampeg way better than the 5150, probably about the same gain level, but the Ampeg was a lot clearer and defined. Its all opinion though..so at least try a 5150 before you decide, you might like it.
If you do go with the Ampeg, I'd say get a 2-12 combo, and another good quality 2-12 cabinet...then you'd basically have a halfstack that is easier to move around (like in the car and such), and you could just use the combo alone if u were playing at home.
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