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Old 2007-03-20, 19:52
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When you started out on guitar...

Did you have natural talent or did you really, really suck then got better with practice?
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Old 2007-03-20, 20:01
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well, i kind a knew how to Aleternate pick as soon as i picked it up, slow, but i knew how, probably instinctually or something but yah, we ALL suck when we start
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Old 2007-03-20, 20:24
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im sure some will agree with me
there are very few that are naturally talented or gifted
most just work at it and improve and become great


people who work at it to become where they are = petrucci,vai,satch,johnson etc..

people who are naturally gifted = hendrix,becker,yngbert,macalpine etc..

me...ive just practiced none stop dont go out much
i know im sad i just work on scales n shit.
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Old 2007-03-20, 20:28
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not natural talent [not any talent? ]
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Old 2007-03-21, 07:14
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I don't believe in natural talent. Everyone has it, just some can make better use of it than others.

I improved VERY quickly within weeks of starting, because I played for several hours per day, constantly learning new tabs and challenging my fingers' ability with harder songs. I was playing Deicide and Children of Bodom(sans solos) within a month or 2 of playing on acoustic. Now I learn at a much slower pace but I still improve both technically and musically, as I experiment more writing my own stuff.
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Old 2007-03-21, 10:26
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oh yeah? well i could play holy wars
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Old 2007-03-21, 10:51
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I was playing Megadeth too.
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Old 2007-03-21, 10:58
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I don't think "Natural Talent" exists at the level many people think it does.

the majority of guitarists that everyone thinks had "natural talent" worked very hard to get where they were.

For example, just because Yngwie is self taught dose not mean that he started anywhere near the level he is today. These guitarists spend many hours practicing and honing their skills to get where they are.

I for one have pretty much spent the last two years studying and practicing and
to improve my skills and it has payed off. I has cost me a little bit in the way of academics and my social life but I feel it was well worth it.
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Old 2007-03-21, 15:49
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Disciplined practice really takes you farther than just playing tabs, I've found.

A old friend of mine played all throughout high school and I always thought he was pretty good. I saw him recently and showed him what I could do after 10 months of my playing and he honestly felt I had surpassed him. He's a nice dude though coulda just been encouraging me...

But sitting down early on and running through exersises (most from this very forum) has been probably of most benefit. Starting slow with a metronome helps as well and techniques can then be applied to songs you'd like to learn. Playing 4 hours a day helps as well

Jamming with tracks helps a lot as well.
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Old 2007-03-21, 16:04
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i sucked when i started bur i have just gotten to this streek where i can actually play good
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Old 2007-03-21, 16:10
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natural talent does exists, depends on what you think natural talent means, someone with no talent for guitar at all, will never be realy good or skilled, someone with natural talen will mostlikely learn things pretty easily compaerd to others.. it will still take alot of time and practice though.

atleast thats my idea about it,

like most people i sucked when i started.
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Old 2007-03-21, 16:18
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yeah i guess.
like my friend is absofuckinglutely clueless aout playing and he's played for one year
but then again he practiced for probably a net worth of.... 2 hrs
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Old 2007-03-22, 06:07
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I've always been one to deem talent as an idiosyncratic abilty to persevere with a specific task... It isn't down to a natural skill or talent for it, but just a unique enjoyment that means some people can stick at a certain skill (i.e. guiattaring in this case) where as others just don't have the interest or passion to practice appropriately to give a noticable improvement rate... This ends up relative to other people int he world or friends within your peer groups, and you naturally begin to excel them as you find it easier and enjoyble to put time into somethign they just can't. A great example for what I mean would be the world of 'web development' and all that shite - It isn't a raw talent, just some fuckers (such as my brother) have the character traits and interests to allow them to develop skills in that area

Also there are similar things that lead and influence not only the physical skill, but also the mental sides. It's just a case of human ability meaning muscle memory develops better for things you enjoy or things that are essential etc....

But yeah.... I remember when a power chord was too hard to play, and how I couldn't use a pick so just got stranded with using a thumb, haha
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Old 2007-03-22, 09:43
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The rhythm's in my blood. I have skinny fingers so I naturally could make the shapes quite easily. I was driven so I pushed myself to learn and practice, but wouldn't consider myself blessed with any natural talent to play. All playing skills were acquired and honed.
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Old 2007-03-22, 10:21
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I sucked terribly when I first started to play guitar

I asked my parents to buy me a guitar. When they finally did, I didsn't know what to do. I just... Started playing. NOT GOOD of course, I sucked tremendously (fret buzz, weak bends, feeble pulloffs, etc.) , but I doodled around to the point where I am now. Even today, my playing guitar has been just doodling around. It sounds a whole lot better though.

One thing that has improved most significantly over the years is my rhythm. I had a good sence for rhythm from the start when I was a kid. After spending many years polishing up my skills though, my rhythm has definitely gotten better.
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Old 2007-03-22, 11:01
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i came out of my mom shredding!

ha nah...i sucked ass when i started. i wasn't even into metal then though..just played a lot of punk.
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Old 2007-03-22, 11:58
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I think everyone sucked when they started, just some suck more or less than others.

A lot depends on the encouragement you get, from friends, relatives, but most of all, yourself. How motivated you are to master a particular riff/song/technique.
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Old 2007-03-22, 12:10
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This forum has been a great tool not only for talking to other guitarists but for motivation. Watching others play on youtube or reading about theory or hell just general chit-chat always motivates me to sit down and play
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Old 2007-03-22, 12:11
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I don't think "Natural Talent" exists at the level many people think it does.

the majority of guitarists that everyone thinks had "natural talent" worked very hard to get where they were.

For example, just because Yngwie is self taught dose not mean that he started anywhere near the level he is today. These guitarists spend many hours practicing and honing their skills to get where they are.

I for one have pretty much spent the last two years studying and practicing and
to improve my skills and it has payed off. I has cost me a little bit in the way of academics and my social life but I feel it was well worth it.


Yeah Yngwie practised VERY HARD. He started playing at 7 years old and when he was like 16 or something stopped going to school and practised for like 8 to 14 hours a day. EVERY FUCKING DAY! I heard some stuff that his mom even found him asleep with his guitar, so tired from practicing guitar the whole day.

The same story goes with Steve Vai, Marty Friedman,... all those guys never had a normal dayjob all they did was play guitar, of course their good at what they do.

Dont call it "talent" its rather Skilled through practice"
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Old 2007-03-22, 16:35
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Sure... all the greats practised, but I think there still has to be an element of talent to be forward thinking enough to push the boundries. Perhaps that applies more to song writing than technical skill though.
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