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Old 2006-11-30, 09:05
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i used to sell porno filled CD's for $5. actually bought a PS2 with the money i made.



I probably bought a small bag of candy. haha.
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Old 2006-11-30, 09:39
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I probably bought a small bag of candy. haha.


The only thing i've ever gotten for "sharing warez" is somebody to play online with!!

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...Its very annoying to keep having to hear some socially-disabled teen come on these boards talking about all the drugs he's started doing so that he can maybe grasp onto some kind of positive response so he feels better about himself and what he's doing.
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Old 2006-11-30, 10:19
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All they need to do is shut down myspace. Then everything will return to normal.
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Old 2006-11-30, 11:13
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All they need to do is shut down myspace. Then everything will return to normal.


What was "normal"? haha

I remmeber when nobody knew about myspace and my exgirlfriend kept telling me to get it. But i kept refusing because the website was so fucking ghetto.

To this date.. even with the MILLIONS that website probably pulls in daily, its still the shittiest programmed website ever. Its so fucking buggy its ridiculous.

I only have it now because others have it. I use facebook 1000x more than myspace now that i'm at a "Real college"
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...Its very annoying to keep having to hear some socially-disabled teen come on these boards talking about all the drugs he's started doing so that he can maybe grasp onto some kind of positive response so he feels better about himself and what he's doing.
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Old 2006-11-30, 11:14
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Government regulated internet?
I will not stand for this.
"Internet 2 - a completely controlled, surveilled and autocratic cyber police state similar to the Chinese model, whereby website owners have to obtain government permission to run a blog, be approved by a biometric thumb scan just to turn their computer on, and immediately get their Internet access shut off if they misbehave."
I don't know the validity of this but I don't doubt it at all.
Better not commit any thought crimes.

i love the 1984 reference, good job.

i dont buy this shit for a second, the uprising that would occur if the internet was "shut-down" would be enormous, and i would be one of the uprisers.
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Old 2006-11-30, 11:30
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i love the 1984 reference, good job.

i dont buy this shit for a second, the uprising that would occur if the internet was "shut-down" would be enormous, and i would be one of the uprisers.


Exactly. I don't even think its possible to "shut down" the internet anyway, unless removing providers, but even then. eh.

Anyways. way.... WAY too much has become dependant upon it, to the point that pulling the plug is just beyond irrational.
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Old 2006-11-30, 12:49
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As for you guys arguing bands make money off of CDs. They do, for a 15 dollar cd they make 1 dollar or less. For a 4 member band that is shit. 25 cents a piece if that. Alot of people might go o hey if they sell 700,000 records thats alot. NO! Most bands rarely sell 50,000 copies of a cd. I mean thats still decent money and all but the bands main market is live convers, dvd's, and promotional shit(tshirts etc). The majority goes to management and label. But the band isn't the main argument here management and label want their money.

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As for them shutting down the internet no way. It's a monster and just think of the poor my space kids, blogers, gamers who havent seen sun light in the past 1-2 years. My god i could imagine all the new people i would see and speaking in L33t0 form. Anyway, the internet is not going to get shut down. Also, as for people getting caught online downloading mp3s, how in hell do they do that? By I.P. spoofing or some shit and then tracking them down from that? I download music all the time for like old shit i cant find mainly thrash and real early albums by current bands like there lps and shit. I also download warez but i mean damn i cant fork out 1,000,000 dollars for certian programs i like to use.

As for my space i have no use for it. Come on why do people want to show off there stupid lives? I mean if you have time to update that shit you have no life. Myspace was suppose to be made so you could re-unite with old friends who moved away and they could find you. All i see people doing now is adding people they know at this momment in time, ridiculous. I use photobucket just to upload photos and thats about as far as i take it. Wouldn't give 2 shits if some Newbie hacked the shit and dropped it .
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Old 2006-11-30, 16:40
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what the fuck is warez?.

im still an internet noob.
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Old 2006-11-30, 16:48
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Update

"At no point in our article did we suggest that the ruling definitely would shut down the Internet, we highlighted the fact that hundreds of transnational corporations like Amazon.com who solely rely on Internet trade would scream bloody murder. But what the ruling would grease the skids for is the move towards a strictly regulated Internet whereby government permission would be required to run a website and that website would be subject to censoring and deletion if it violated any 'terms of use.' "

Earlier this year under the headline, The End of the Internet?, The Nation magazine reported,

"The nation's largest telephone and cable companies are crafting an alarming set of strategies that would transform the free, open and nondiscriminatory Internet of today to a privately run and branded service that would charge a fee for virtually everything we do online."

"Verizon, Comcast, Bell South and other communications giants are developing strategies that would track and store information on our every move in cyberspace in a vast data-collection and marketing system, the scope of which could rival the National Security Agency. According to white papers now being circulated in the cable, telephone and telecommunications industries, those with the deepest pockets--corporations, special-interest groups and major advertisers--would get preferred treatment. Content from these providers would have first priority on our computer and television screens, while information seen as undesirable, such as peer-to-peer communications, could be relegated to a slow lane or simply shut out."

"Internet 2 is being billed as the next generation of the world wide web and it has already set global speed records in terms of data transfer, far outstripping the old Internet."
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Old 2006-11-30, 17:09
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what the fuck is warez?.

im still an internet noob.


Warez is at least what they USED to call pirated games, moves, music, applications and so on. Wares.. you know Like show me your wares. hah

They just tacked on a Z i guess for extremeness. Just like Gamez and Appz.
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...Its very annoying to keep having to hear some socially-disabled teen come on these boards talking about all the drugs he's started doing so that he can maybe grasp onto some kind of positive response so he feels better about himself and what he's doing.
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Old 2006-11-30, 17:59
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Oh, and this is what Newt Gingrich has recently said (getting back to that topic, which is related to the internet free speech article):


"My Prediction to you is that either before we lose a city or, if we are truly stupid, after we lose a city, we will adopt rules of engagement that use every technology that we can find to break up their capacity to use the internet, to break up their capacity to use free speech, and to go after people who want to kill us to stop them recruiting people before they get to reach out and convince young people to destroy their lives while destroying us."

"I want to suggest to you right now that we should empanelling people to look seriously at a level of supervision that we would never dream of if it were not for the scale of this threat. This is a serious long term war and it will lead us to want to know what is said in every suspect place in the country, it will lead to us to learn how to close down every website that is dangerous."

“We should propose a Geneva Convention for fighting terrorism, which makes very clear that those who would fight outside the rules of law, those who would use weapons of mass destruction, and those who would target civilians are, in fact, subject to a totally different set of rules that allow us to protect civilization by defeating barbarism before it gains so much strength that it is truly horrendous.”


This article goes into some detail regaurding his history (notably, he's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations), as well as Newt's (and all people in relation to Newt) political views and what school of philosophical thought they come from.

From said article:

"Gingrich, a regular attendee of the annual Summer camp at the Bohemian Grove, and long term CFR member, has previously openly referred to anyone who oppose Bush-Republican Neo-Conservative madness as being part of an 'insurgency' "

"The level to which this traitor is twisting reality to fit his own crazy notion of the way the world operates is indicative of the Straussian global outlook that we have come to see so clearly adopted by the so called neoconservative movement."

"Like Plato, Strauss taught that within societies, "some are fit to lead, and others to be led", according to Shadia Drury, author of 1999's Leo Strauss and the American Right. But, unlike Plato, who believed that leaders had to be people with such high moral standards that they could resist the temptations of power, Strauss thought that "those who are fit to rule are those who realize there is no morality and that there is only one natural right, the right of the superior to rule over the inferior"."

"Leo Strauss was also a strong believer in the "Realism" form of International Relations made prominent by Thomas Hobbes. Like Hobbes, he thought that human nature was intrinsically aggressive and could be restrained only through a State formed via a powerful military industrial complex . "Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed," he once wrote. 'Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united - and they can only be united against other people.' "

"Strauss thinks that a political order can be stable only if it is united by an external threat," Drury wrote in her book. "Following Machiavelli, he maintains that if no external threat exists, then one has to be manufactured. This is what Henry Kissinger was referring to in that often quoted statement he made about creating external future threats in order to guard the world order he wishes to see become more prevalent and powerful, the system we often refer to as the 'New World Order'. "


I'm taking several political science courses right now, and although I'm not completely educated on the matter, I have read a fair bit of Hobbes' views and his idea of the 'Social Contract' we all must sign (figuratively ofcourse) when entering a civil society, giving up certain natural rights: "If human society is to be possible, individuals must agree to surrender certain of their natural rights to one ruler, to whom they owe a kind of contractual obedience." He believed liberty was given to individuals by the sovreign.
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Old 2006-11-30, 18:05
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I have no idea why you posted 99.9% of that post. Seemed really irrelavant and or just a really boring read.

What the hell does social contract have anything to do with a global free internet? Also this "social contract" isn't written in stone, and not every freedom is given up as a result of society.
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Old 2006-11-30, 18:18
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holy shit, can you imagine all the faggotnerds mySpace/Messenger/IRC/etc users coming out of their basements and try to have an actual social life under direct exposure of sunlight?

i'll headbutt the first who says "LOL" during a conversation.


There are actually people in my school who say "lol" during conversations.
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Old 2006-11-30, 18:53
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I didn't read basically anything of what the poster of this thread said. The internet isn't going anywhere, so will it be bought by some company.


Unless you live in China. BLAM. BITCHEZ GOT FUCKED BY GOGGL3, WHEN THEY LOOK UP TIANANMEN SQU@R3 PICZ THEY GET TO SEE TOURIST$, INZT3@D 0F This.
http://www.historie-nu.dk/Tiananmen.jpg

It was on some some documentary I watched several months ago, I think CNN made it.
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Old 2006-11-30, 19:02
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There are actually people in my school who say "lol" during conversations.


I think a little piece of me died just now...
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...Its very annoying to keep having to hear some socially-disabled teen come on these boards talking about all the drugs he's started doing so that he can maybe grasp onto some kind of positive response so he feels better about himself and what he's doing.
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First - the reason I posted that info. is because it has to do with the first amendmant of the bill of rights/constitution, and how its being gutted to fit the elite of America, and their vision of a free society. The first amendment does apply to the topic of a global free internet, as it involves free speech, which also relates to the fact that many of the politicians in office today are malthusian, social darwinists, and straussian in their political thought, and really don't like the potential benefits of the net (as it limits their control). Also, in my third post in this thread, I said:
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Also, recently Newt Gingrich has made statements about 'rethinking' the first amendment of the bill of rights ( details here: http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=681 ), talking about limiting free speech on the internet to stop terrorists spreading there views. Keith Olbermann's dicussion with constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley has some fair questions about Newt's comments: "When you talk about closing down internet sites, who is the one who is going to decide which those are?"

http://www.corvuswire.com/olbermann-clg.htm


so I was adding to that post, as well as this one:
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A more potent threat to the internet comes from the U.S.A. trying to exert control under the guise of stopping online child pornography/exploitation. This is ridiculous as the internet is instrumental in revealing these types of people. Remember Justin Berry? As if he wasn't being exploited by certain organizations...


And yeah, Gingrich is wonderful. He talks about limiting free speech at a fucking awards ceremony celebrating it.
mms://youngturks.vo.llnwd.net/o1/11-29Newt.wmv


I think its a fairly relavant addition, especially if you read the article I posted with it. If it seems boring then ok, great, that really isn't my problem.

Second - If you read the article (I'll play nice and just asume you did), you'll see how the Straussian/Hobbesian 'social contract' fits with the above; that is ofcourse why I posted that article, and then quoted some paragraphs from that article (incase people didn't read it). The piece was demonstrating why Gingrich spouts the rhetoric he does/where he's coming from. He, and people like him such as Michael Chertoff (Secretary of Homland Security), have attacked free speech on the net repeatedly (some links referencing those attacks are in said article as well). I never said it was written in stone, I don't even believe in the idea of Hobbes' 'social contract', and I didn't say nor imply that 'every' freedom is given up as a result of entering into that contract. I was merely giving background to the article, by using what I've learned recently. Besides, giving up even one natural freedom to a single leader in order to create a civil society is not acceptable, at least not to me.

Too be honest, I did think there would be more genuine interest in this topic; my bad indeed.
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I think a little piece of me died just now...


Same here man...ive actually heard people go BRB instead of be right back...
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Same here man...ive actually heard people go BRB instead of be right back...


Please tell me you kicked all those people in the mouth.
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Old 2006-12-01, 00:27
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Please tell me you kicked all those people in the mouth.


Pretty please?

Cause thats just fucking gay.

And to AchromaticChronicles.
I didn't say this isn't a good topic worth discussing ha. I'm just saying you're posting alot of paragraphed quotes that vaguely go towards your point, which until now seem to point pretty vaguely in any direction. And sorry if it seemed i was putting words in your mouth, that wasn't the purpose in saying what i said about social contract.

I used to be like you before. I know how you feel as stupid politicians like EXTREME left wingers piss me off more than they ever did before. And besides its becoming increasingly clear that you have almost anarchist views on liberty.

And in YOUR opinion define a "natural freedom"? What is and ISNT a natural freedom? In your opinion. Cause you're now touching into morality and philosophy, so i would most definately make use of logic.
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Old 2006-12-01, 01:28
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And in YOUR opinion define a "natural freedom"? What is and ISNT a natural freedom? In your opinion. Cause you're now touching into morality and philosophy, so i would most definately make use of logic.



Sorry what I meant was natural rights (as in supposed 'God given' natural rights were all born with) not natural freedoms, my mistake, but closely related; and I was talking about natural rights defined within the context of The Constitution or if you're Canadian like me, The Charter of Rights & Freedoms, they're fairly similar (I believe in ours we don't have a right to keep and bare arms garunteed to us, I could be wrong; thats something that bothers me a little with our charter if it isn't there). I don't feel I have anarchist-leaning views on liberty, but I guess I can see how you see that. Stuff like habeas corpus, right to free speech, peaceful assembly, freedom of coscience and religion, right to defend oneself, "right of people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable search and seizure", the right to mobility, and right to privacy. etc
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