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Old 2002-09-24, 18:42
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Exclamation Death Metal and Black metal: what are they really?

I want to know what everyone thinks what black metal is and what death metal is. I see death metal to be powerful loud deeper growls and so on and usually know keyboard. Black metal i see to be more darker, more melodic and Harmonic and lighter growling more kinda demonish sounding i guess..if ya really wanna see what i'm talkign about here



Death Metal : Anal Blast, Skinless, Cannible Corpse, Morbid Angel and Hate Eternal


Black Metal : Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Immortal, At The Gates, and Dark Funeral ( i know dark funeral is not so melodic and shit but hey i see that type of black metal more as the early black metal like Mayhem and Dark Throne the bands that kinda started to set some form then it progressed.)

anyways that's my story and i'm sticking to it
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Old 2002-09-24, 19:07
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Well, the way i tell em apart is this, if i hear a guy trying to sound like a women, i know it's black metal.

I don't find Black Metal to be that melodic either, there's some death metal bands who are quite good at melodies and keeping their heaviness. Death for example, has some very nice melodies.
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at the gates is not black metal
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fuck callin em black and death, just call em good music
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Yeah I agree.. there are quite a few death bands that are excellent with melodies.. I think the "melodic death" tend to have a little more of a Thrash sound to them at times.. Soilwork, Dark Tranquillity, Arch Enemy, NonExist, Beyond the Embrace.(even though they have some clean vocals)
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To me, Even though i love DM
It seems a waste of time, as their motivs are ...well...Death, Yet, they are to chicken to put their ideals into practise, thats one reason i like BM, they Didnlt have these ideas and do fuck all with them.
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What a mind you have Chtulu.

So you honestly want every death metal band that's every mentionned killing someone, to go out and do so? That's insane.
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that would be cool in a very morbid way....at least it will keep the population down...
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What a mind you have Chtulu.

So you honestly want every death metal band that's every mentionned killing someone, to go out and do so? That's insane.


No, i'm saying, at least Bm put its beliefs into Practise, and what it was about was very realistic.

Where as, Singing about gutting someone, ios pointless, its not gonna happen, Its en empty threat, they're probobally scared of death thgemselves.
Now i aint shittin on Dm, I'm just pointing something out
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To me, Even though i love DM
It seems a waste of time, as their motivs are ...well...Death, Yet, they are to chicken to put their ideals into practise, thats one reason i like BM, they Didnlt have these ideas and do fuck all with them.


It's things like that that really make people sound immature...

That's the only reply I'm giving to this.
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Old 2002-09-25, 15:37
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Man, if death metal bands put their beliefs into practice, some places'd be damn scary in this world. Anyway, what about, say, Morbid Angel, with Trey bit his wrists open to appease some dumbass god that dont exist? Aint that puttin it into practice? And yeah, if you want Chris Barnes to go around killing people and fucking them when they're dead, that's great. Says a lot about you.
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No, i'm saying, at least Bm put its beliefs into Practise, and what it was about was very realistic.


How do BM put their beliefs into practice? All they do is wear white makeup and full body leather outfits.


Have you heard of Immolation? (you must have..or else you've just ignored me since you came here) All their lyrics are anti-christian.....they also believe it. I've read interviews with them and they say their lyrics reflect how they feel about christianity and how it is being taught to everyone.

If a band wants to sing about gutting people, then they should do so without being expected to "live up to the lyrics" and gut people in real life. They're just writting this stuff for fun, you don't think they seriously believe in pedophile zombies rapping 5 year old girls do you??
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Old 2002-09-25, 16:28
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Dudes, i think you have missed my point, but thats becuase i phrased it shittily up there, sorry.

fuck it, lets talk no more on subject, i cannot be arsed explaining.

In closing.

you have your views, i have mine.
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i like it all, yeah alot of death metal has lyrics like about gutting someone and shit, but it's still good shit, and as for Death, i dunno Chuck Schulinder(however it's spelled) was pretty fucking cool, it sucks he died, but alot of death stuff sounds more like thrash to me.
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Well, the way i tell em apart is this, if i hear a guy trying to sound like a women, i know it's black metal.

I don't find Black Metal to be that melodic either, there's some death metal bands who are quite good at melodies and keeping their heaviness. Death for example, has some very nice melodies.



plenty of black metal is melodic, and Cradle of Filth is NOT the only black metal band around ya know? and as for melody, a local band here that got signed called Serberus are very melodic, and if their shit isn't black metal, Then Eminem must be black.
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Old 2002-09-25, 21:07
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plenty of black metal is melodic, and Cradle of Filth is NOT the only black metal band around ya know? and as for melody, a local band here that got signed called Serberus are very melodic, and if their shit isn't black metal, Then Eminem must be black.


Do you mean symphonic .. like Dimmu Borgir , Mystic Circle, CoF ?

and to me Melodic is more like Immortal.
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Where as, Singing about gutting someone, ios pointless, its not gonna happen, Its en empty threat, they're probobally scared of death thgemselves.


Interesting point with weighty philosophical implications. Does art imitate life?

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Old 2002-09-26, 12:33
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Haha, so true.
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How do BM put their beliefs into practice? All they do is wear white makeup and full body leather outfits.



Hahaha

you got that right.
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Old 2002-09-26, 13:58
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