Engle Vs Peavey.. I would have to go with Engl even though I have never played one. I've seen one and heard Engl but I've only played with a 5150 over the years.

I would trust Engl to make a nice amp right out of the box.

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5150 vs engl powerball
i play nile/necrophagist/behemoth/BTBAM/DEP/meshuggah

That must've been the most incoherent post I've ever encountered.

I insist, Engl can do many things that the 5150 can't, plus I personally am more impressed with uber high gain on the Engl than on the 5150. But of course keep in mind that 5150/6505's can be had for much less than a Powerball. Then again, good tone doesn't come cheap.

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nile uses jcm 2000s

necro 5150

behemoth mesa triple recs, though i think he used to have a jcm 800 or 900

btbam 5150/krankenstein

whos dep?

who the fuck knows what meshuggah uses...

now a powerball can push out tones quite reminiscent of the 5150, and is also tight as fuck... so go for that. downside, it wont get the looseness of nile or behemoth.

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Go the 5150. Necrophagist have used ENGL rackmounts, but you can get a tone like their on a 5150. The xmetalxcorex scene swear by their 5150's. Meshuggah are into Line 6 shit, that is, their higher end modelling stuff. You can get their sound on POD's, but nowadays Im pretty sure they swing Vetta II's.
As for Nile's sound, in the end, it doesnt matter. You can play any band on any amp, who needs to sound like them.

the guitarist in my band has a 5150. good amp for alot of high gain tones and even some medium gain stuff, but man is it hard to pull out decent cleans. every practice im glad i have my engl, i think everything from clean to brutal my powerball does bettter imo.


dillinger escape plan? and to my knowledge they use rectos.

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umm thanks all i need is a cheap good metal amp

im poor

maybe i should just save for a powerball

i thought necrophagist used engls of some sort.

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They do/did.

engls cost an arm and a dick huh?

5150 II with vader cabs for muhammed and engl with vader cabs for sami...that is what they had when i saw them last may.

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They use 5150's live now, but I swear he recorded and used to gig with ENGL rack pre's.

heres what it comes down to.
How brutal do you want your distortion, and how clean do you want your cleans?

The 5150 can get pretty brutal, but its also kinda raw and sterile and hxc like. But then again, if you tweak the gain and mids, you can get some colour to the tone and sound like Immortal, or splatterhouse... And the cleans make the baby jesus cry. You'd DEFINATELY need a touch of chorus or a bass chorus infront of it to get super clean cleans.

And then theres the powerball, which i have never even seen in person, but i've heard xdisx saying its gain is amazing all the way from 1-10, and the cleans are something to brag about.

So, do you need cleans, are you going to use cleans, and how much are you willing to pay for those extra features.

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You can get a kickass sound with almost any amp if you run it through a ton of rack gear. Also keep in mind that with alot of bands, they will endorse a certain kind of amp, and have it onstage and everything, but be playing through a different amp that's offstage.

As for engls versus 5150's, I've only ever had experience with a 5150. They sound awesome in the studio but live they sound really harsh. I'm not sure why that is. GWAR used to use them.

If you're looking to sound as "brutal" as possible it hardly matters. Just use a distortion box in front of the dirty channel of your amp and you'll be set. All I can say is play em both and see which one you like better. Don't just listen to a bunch of random dudes on the internet. :P Only you can decide what's best for you.

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You are a little bit off mate. For starters, good tone doesnt come cheap. Rack gear doesnt work miracles, either. As for putting a stompbox in front of the dirty channel, it wont neccessarily sound good.

the heads range from like $800-ish(thunder 50) to $3,500-ish(SE) u.s.d. with many different models in between.

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or maybe a avt half stack

but as for cleans i do wants pretty good cleans and distortion like on the nile song the burning pits of the duat rythm and solo sounds

an avt will make you want to kill yourself. They honestly sound like poop. Do NOT waste your money, everybody i know who has/had one HATEs them. I know a guy that sold his AVT to get an MG, and thats saying something.

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damn...

AVT: Abhorrent Visceral Torment.

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