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2006-09-06, 06:46
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Which Marshall JCM Series
ok i dont know exactly much about amps but im looking for that nice swedish melodic sound, and i was told marshall jcm series give u that but theres like a couple different ones. oh yeah and if u have other combo amps in particular that would give me that sound that would be sick thanx
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2006-09-06, 09:26
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I would say the JCM 900 would give you that sound. But dont get the combos, they have open backs, you should get a 50w head and either a 2x12 marshall cab or if you can afford it, a 4x12 marshall cab
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2006-09-06, 10:34
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You want a 2000 I think mate.
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2006-09-06, 14:14
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If i had to play out of a Marshall I'd probably pick a JCM 2000. But i have a Crate blue voodoo... and it does just nicely for melodic death metal.
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2006-09-06, 14:26
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If your after the swedish melo-death sound, a 5150 will get you there faster.
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If your after the swedish melo-death sound, a 5150 will get you there faster.
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To be honest. It almost doesn't even matter, because you can make just about a decient quality sound out of all these amps. I mean i was about to say a 5150 or a mesa. It really doesn't matter. The swedish melodic death sound is less about the amps as much as the riffs, and lyrics sang over it. Also the occasional piano or strings or whatever else. I mean can you compare the amp sounds of say... At the gates and Dark tranquillity? Not in my opinion.
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2006-09-06, 16:20
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To be honest. It almost doesn't even matter, because you can make just about a decient quality sound out of all these amps. I mean i was about to say a 5150 or a mesa. It really doesn't matter. The swedish melodic death sound is less about the amps as much as the riffs, and lyrics sang over it. Also the occasional piano or strings or whatever else. I mean can you compare the amp sounds of say... At the gates and Dark tranquillity? Not in my opinion.
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2006-09-06, 16:43
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alright cool suggestion u guys thanx. im in the need of one cause my bands got a show on sept. 30th ive always connect my v-amp into my friends crate it sounds ok but its too digital sounding. ill see what i can afford
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2006-09-06, 16:47
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alright cool suggestion u guys thanx. im in the need of one cause my bands got a show on sept. 30th ive always connect my v-amp into my friends crate it sounds ok but its too digital sounding. ill see what i can afford
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Anything loud as shit. Tube would be prefered.
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2006-09-06, 17:03
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Or if you are not a tube guy, go with a higher wattage solid state (200+ watts) so you get more headroom and less clipping that is notorius with solid states since you have more power.
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2006-09-06, 18:24
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well i have a jcm dsl 100 head, and i find its awesome for anything metal, it has just the right amount of distortion and the more you turn it up, the more warm and clear it sounds. Try and find a 50 watt version used and i m sure you'll really like it
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And if you go SS, invest in SS amps that don't blow, like anything from Tech 21/Sansamp or Ampeg.
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2006-09-06, 18:31
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or some of the RH or XL series Randall.
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2006-09-06, 22:59
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any of the amps would do perfect. to better help you find a amp for you we need to know things like how much you want to spend, what kind of versatility do you need, and if you preffer tubes or not.
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any of the amps would do perfect. to better help you find a amp for you we need to know things like how much you want to spend, what kind of versatility do you need, and if you preffer tubes or not.
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Theres the ticket.
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well i have a jcm dsl 100 head, and i find its awesome for anything metal, it has just the right amount of distortion and the more you turn it up, the more warm and clear it sounds. Try and find a 50 watt version used and i m sure you'll really like it
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I have one of those as well. Have you ever had to replace the tubes? If so, how did you know when they needed replacing? Mine will play at normal *very loud* volume for about a minute or so, but then the volume diminishes and the tone sounds like total shit. I know it has a problem, but I am wondering if this is typical of tubes shitting the bed. |
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That is more than likely your tubes ''shitting the bed''. Put some JJ's in there.
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I have one of those as well. Have you ever had to replace the tubes? If so, how did you know when they needed replacing? Mine will play at normal *very loud* volume for about a minute or so, but then the volume diminishes and the tone sounds like total shit. I know it has a problem, but I am wondering if this is typical of tubes shitting the bed.
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i havent had to replace the tubes on mine yet, but that does sound like ure poweramp tubes are crapping out on ya, i'd suggest getting some jj's for the poweramp and sovteks for the pre
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OK doods!! i was searching and i didnt find some cheap jcm's so i got a peavey 5150 and i loved the tone enough gain for my taste, but what do u guys thing about the 5150s?
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If it had a killer clean channel, I would have kept one.
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2006-09-08, 18:03
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i havent had to replace the tubes on mine yet, but that does sound like ure poweramp tubes are crapping out on ya, i'd suggest getting some jj's for the poweramp and sovteks for the pre |
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Go to eurotubes.com. Just shoot Bob an email telling him what kind of amp you have and what kind of sound you want and he'll sort you with a fresh set of kickin JJ tubes. They are cake to install yourself and would probably run you less than $150.
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2006-09-16, 01:35
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Won't I have to "bias" it after?
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2006-09-16, 03:05
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2006-09-16, 22:04
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I wouldn't even begin to know how to do that. > |
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2006-09-17, 05:17
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You can get it modded so its fixed. Otherwise, take it to a techy.
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2006-09-17, 22:58
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get a multimeter and do it yourself, it really is'nt that hard to bias an amp,
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I wouldn't even know where to start. And I am too impatient to read all the technical crap regarding it. So I will probably pay lots to have it done for me.
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2006-09-20, 12:17
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Thats what I was thinking, plus, you wont die slumped over your amp via electricution.
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