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Old 2006-10-11, 23:31
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i belive a hungarian minor is used in the necrophaghist song diminished to be

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Old 2006-10-14, 07:15
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http://www.looknohands.com/chordhou...r/index_rb.html

this is the best scale site i ever seen.

you can adjust the tunings and its got most of the scales mentioned here<tons of wierd indian scales>, mess around with it, i basically learned how to write music with this site alone.
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http://jguitar.com/scale?root=E&sca...er&notes=sharps

i belive a hungarian minor is used in the necrophaghist song diminished to be

scale calculator ftw.


Hungarian (Harmonic) Minor is also Spanish Phrygian or Dorian Sharpened 4th. Necro' also use it in The Stillborn One, at least with root D. Has a good almost tango-like sound. I think you could tango to the Stillborn One. At least the earlier section.

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D[--------------] A[--------------] F[--------------] C[------------0-] G[------1-2-4---] D[0-2-3---------]
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Old 2006-10-27, 20:39
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no. hungarian. not harmonic! look at the link Unanything, harmonic minor and hungarian minor are very different
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that is hungarian tard...

------------
---------12-
-----023----
--023-------this is harmonic minor
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all that shit is the same, just different root notes, dno about that hongarian scale (i didnt check what it is) but its probaly just harmonic minor.

just like dorian and ionian and all that shit is the same scale, just from a different root note.

personaly, i dont know all those modes, its all the same scale to me
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----------
--------12
----023---
023------- harmonic minor the 0 on low E is the root note.

---------------
---------------
-------------34
---------245--
----1245------ the 2 on the A is the root note
023-----------


both paterns are similar, though they start on different strings/keys.


yeh that hungarian scale from the link isnt harmonic minor at all

looks like altered (harmonic minor and pure minor combined), but thats not it either, i didnt look realy carefuly though. ah whatever
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(sry for tripple post)

the solo for diminished to be is in harmonic minor, and for asfar as i know they use harmonic minor and pureminor (mostly combined ''altered'')
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Old 2006-10-30, 08:02
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Just to clear up a few things:

Natural or pure minor (aeolian mode) = 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Harmonic minor = 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-7
Melodic minor = 1-2-b3-4-5-6-7
Hungarian minor = 1-2-b3-#4-5-b6-7
Phrygian dominant = 1-b2-3-4-5-b6-b7 (5th mode Harmonic minor)
Double Harmonic - 1-b2-3-4-5-b6-7 (= 5th mode Hungarian minor = scale used in Misirlou)
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Misirlou scale - Dick Dale just runs up the 6th string: ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------- 0-1-4-5-7-8-11-(12)----------------------- = E double harmonic, or A Hungarian minor

Dorian #4 = 1-2-b3-#4-5-6-b7 (4th mode harmonic minor)
Altered scale = 1-b2-b3-b4-b5-b6-b7 (7th mode melodic minor)
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ah its al the same to me, just starts on a different note/string, the patterns are all the same, so i dont bother with modes, they just confuse me.
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Old 2006-10-30, 18:14
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yeh that hungarian scale from the link isnt harmonic minor at all


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ah its al the same to me, just starts on a different note/string, the patterns are all the same, so i dont bother with modes, they just confuse me.


That's how I remember it, too. Although modes of the same scale have the same overall feel, each scale has a unique tonality. That's why we distinguish. Try playing something like the Locrian Natural 6th and then play the mode after it, Ionian Augmented. Very different. Or the Hindu mode then the Superlocrian.

Cultural names for minor modes are confusing. I prefer to give them their theoretical names. That one that I gave above is also called Dorian #4, and it was a magazine that gave it the name Romanian. Sometimes they end up getting confused. Particularly on the Internet. Someone suggested that the Persian scales has a bb6 instead of b6 once. AAAGH!
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hmm ok, ohwell, i never realy needed all those modes before, with pure minor and harmonic minor scale i know enough personaly, also cuz i dont write music at all, i just do some tabbing, and pure and harmonic minor are all i need for that.
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------------------2-3-5-6------------
---------1-2-4-5---------------------
-0-1-3-4------------------------------

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http://www.looknohands.com/chordhou...r/index_rb.html

this is the best scale site i ever seen.

you can adjust the tunings and its got most of the scales mentioned here<tons of wierd indian scales>, mess around with it, i basically learned how to write music with this site alone.


+ fucking one man.
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------------------2-3-5-6------------
---------1-2-4-5---------------------
-0-1-3-4------------------------------

diminished Half-whole


I improvise in that all the time. That's a great scale.
You should try the 'half'-'three half' scale. Like the one above, but darker and more mysterious.

The first theoretical dive I made was learning how to play Eastern-sounding stuff.
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Old 2006-11-16, 23:05
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I dont remember the name, but 1 b2 b3 b5 5 b6 7= A Bb C Eb E F G#
I know that theoretically they have to be either naturals and flats or naturals and sharps, but because of all the chromatics in it, I didn't feel like complicating or or whatever. I doesn't matter. wierd scale. either middle eastern or latin jazzy depending on how you use it. sounds good over E(b5)
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could someone please put up the correct Hungarian Minor scale!
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I dont remember the name, but 1 b2 b3 b5 5 b6 7= A Bb C Eb E F G#
I know that theoretically they have to be either naturals and flats or naturals and sharps, but because of all the chromatics in it, I didn't feel like complicating or or whatever. I doesn't matter. wierd scale. either middle eastern or latin jazzy depending on how you use it. sounds good over E(b5)

It will become A Bb C D# E F G# A, a modified minor scale. It is definitely not necessary to use only naturals and sharps or flats. With this scale, the clef will be empty (or with a flattened B), and every D and G that are sharpened will then be written with a sharp.
It is quite strange indeed. Three additions to make it sound sharper. But it is cool used in the right way indeed. We would get this sound if we turned the F# to an F in the intro melody of Metal Heart of Accept.
But I also do not know the correct name this one has. On the site of the link, it is called Mela Subhapantuvarali or Todi Theta

The correct Hungarian Minor scale is (from A):
A B C D# E F G# A
Hungarian Major:
A B# C# D# E F# G A
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