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Old 2006-07-14, 12:47
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if you dont get some kind of emotion listening to music why do you listen to it in the first place? you may disagree with what emotion compelledtolacerate seeks, but i think music should illicit some kind of emotional response
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the thing about anal cunt, as opposed to the subsequent porno-gore grind stuff that kinda followed in thier wake years later<i guess carcass is a major influence too>, is that there was no scene for what AC were doing. AC was intended to crash everyones party,everyones show,hardcore,metal,punk everything, flip everyones wig,piss off venues and crowds to the point of violence. from which they totally succeeded

AC has been doing this shit since the 80's. thier music was intentionally supposed to go against the grain of all underground music then.

thier goal was to be hated. they are more racist than any nazi band, more stupid, pointlessly insulting,pseudo sadistic than any death metal band, more violent than any tough guy hardcore band, used more drugs and drank more than any punk band. the only band to top them was gg allen and whatever musicians would accompany him on any ill fated tour he never could get past a week into due to him being arrested or beat up or ODing.

to me, none of these newer shock value gore-porno whatever bands can hold a candle to anal cunt or gg in this regard, anal cunt and gg had already done shit these newer bands simply wont do. i personally do not like anal cunt or gg allen, but i can see what they were going for, when music ventures into a competition of being the most anti-social,the most evil,most violent music possible you will attract legit psychotics<putnum,allen> who will show you that fine line between the tounge and cheek, the imitation and the real,utterly fucking stupid, deal of being an insane asshole willing to get the shit kicked out of him by the crowd.

im not saying every band should have this meaningful,well thought out message but alot of these kind of bands i hear are composed of good musicians who play pointless, not really shocking at all,music.

tipper gore may get pissed, have a congressional hearing for more warning labels or something. thats about it.

nihilistic,completely shocking,unacceptable music made sense when it really effected people,pissed them off, made an impact.

maybe im looking too far into things, i dont know
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Why is everyone so stuck up on feeling and emotion in music (not just you, tons of others as well, I don't mean to single you out)? Music is fucking sound...listen to it.

If I wanted to listen to sound, I would just put a cat in a bag and bang it into a brick wall for 2 hours. If I wanted to listen to sound, I would eat 10 tacos from the back of some Mexican's shitty-looking car, light off my farts, and burn my ass hairs off while squealing like a cunt. You hear sound EVERYWHERE. Music is a form of sound that has one purpose, which is to give you that feeling I'm describing. That I'm-on-top-of-the-world-so-fuck-all-of-you feeling.
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Old 2006-07-14, 16:14
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tourette syndrom... i hate gabbagrind, but that is great...

does anybody know swarrrm? i think they are from japan...
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if you dont get some kind of emotion listening to music why do you listen to it in the first place? you may disagree with what emotion compelledtolacerate seeks, but i think music should illicit some kind of emotional response

I don't know I just kinda listen, then I decide if I like it or not.

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the thing about anal cunt...(lot's of text)...maybe im looking too far into things, i dont know

You are pretty much right. It's why I think GG and AC are great, because they don't give a fuck about anyone except themselves. They made they kind of music (and did the craziest shit) that THEY WANTED to.

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If I wanted to listen to sound, I would just put a cat in a bag and bang it into a brick wall for 2 hours. If I wanted to listen to sound, I would eat 10 tacos from the back of some Mexican's shitty-looking car, light off my farts, and burn my ass hairs off while squealing like a cunt. You hear sound EVERYWHERE. Music is a form of sound that has one purpose, which is to give you that feeling I'm describing. That I'm-on-top-of-the-world-so-fuck-all-of-you feeling.

Were all those analogies really necessary?
Perhaps I just didn't understand. If it's emotion we are talking here, then all grindcore really elicits is anger and hatred...AC would be the #1 band for that.
If it's lyrical content, that shouldn't really matter anyway because most grind bands it's hard to understand them anyway.
Or is it the AC attitude that you just don't like?
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Old 2006-07-15, 19:16
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Old 2006-07-15, 21:06
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Were all those analogies really necessary?
Perhaps I just didn't understand. If it's emotion we are talking here, then all grindcore really elicits is anger and hatred...AC would be the #1 band for that.
If it's lyrical content, that shouldn't really matter anyway because most grind bands it's hard to understand them anyway.
Or is it the AC attitude that you just don't like?

1. No, they weren't, but I try to make my point clear and I sometimes go a little too far. Sorry.

2. I'm not denying that Grindcore doesn't have emotion. It's just... Think of it like this. You have all these little photos that represent your hate and your anger. What's on the photos could be stuff that you hate, stuff that makes you angry, and so on. Now any form of music can take those photos and organize them into a collage of a sort and the collage represents the music they play; how the photos are organized and such. You understand? Now with grindcore.... a grindcore band takes those photo's, dunks them in rubber cement (Of course with pornogrind, they would be pasting the pictures with cum, *stifled chuckle*) and slamming them onto the canvas as fast as the can, not caring where they paste it. They put too much raw power and energy in their pusic that there is just little or no room for clarity. Which is pretty much what makes up grindcore.

3. I don't really pay attention to lyrics with any music I listen to. Words mean shit to me.

4. Anal Cunts attitude? If it's their offensive, racist, nazist, homophobic, trying-to-be-as-grotesque-as-possible-attitude, no I don't have a problem with it. I hate them because they were meant to be a joke band, just a band to fuck around and shit, not even be serious with their music, and they GOT FUCKING SIGNED!!! They practically lowered the bar for bands to get signed; CRAPPY BANDS, if you will. Sellout bands, bands that don't give a shit abotu music, who just want money. That's why I hate Anal Cunt; they lowered the standard for greatness.
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4. Anal Cunts attitude? If it's their offensive, racist, nazist, homophobic, trying-to-be-as-grotesque-as-possible-attitude, no I don't have a problem with it. I hate them because they were meant to be a joke band, just a band to fuck around and shit, not even be serious with their music, and they GOT FUCKING SIGNED!!! They practically lowered the bar for bands to get signed; CRAPPY BANDS, if you will. Sellout bands, bands that don't give a shit abotu music, who just want money. That's why I hate Anal Cunt; they lowered the standard for greatness.



who did they sell out to................earache? relapse? those labels already carried fucking stupid bands anyway. to me thats hardly selling out, this is not to mention the impressive amount of releases and splits they have under thier belt before they went got stuff released on bigger labels. selling out is going mainstream, conglomerate labels,MTV videos.

lowering the bar?

dude grindcore is already the lowest of the low, how could any porno-gore shit raise the bar? when we talk about shit like "brutal death metal" "gore grind" we arent taking about artforms that champion intellectually,philosophically mindblowing lyrical content, poineering multi faceted complex emotions thru sound. most of the bands mentioned here have the cultural,intellectual significance of a fart joke

they dont give a shit about music? they want money?

dude, seth putnam smoked crack for years. its not like he lives in hollywood driving a hummer, lighting cigars with burning hundred dollar bills. the guy rivals bukowski in terms of being a complete loser. and AC hardly have been a productive band thruout its existance, he nearly died 2 years ago trying to commit suicide.
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4. Anal Cunts attitude? If it's their offensive, racist, nazist, homophobic, trying-to-be-as-grotesque-as-possible-attitude, no I don't have a problem with it. I hate them because they were meant to be a joke band, just a band to fuck around and shit, not even be serious with their music, and they GOT FUCKING SIGNED!!! They practically lowered the bar for bands to get signed; CRAPPY BANDS, if you will. Sellout bands, bands that don't give a shit abotu music, who just want money. That's why I hate Anal Cunt; they lowered the standard for greatness.

Low-tech pretty much summed it up.
How could you not want to just fuck around and get to travel to Europe and Japan knowing that your music is a complete joke? It's great. It's a total slap in the face to the entire conglomerate of music.

As for selling out, kinda. In the true sense of the word, not really.
It's not as if they went out searching for a label, Earach discovered them and thought what they were doing was completely genius, so they did what record labels try to do...sign a fresh new band. Seth even wrote a song called "We're Not Allowed To Listen To Anal Cunt Anymore, Because They Signed To Earache."
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who did they sell out to................earache? relapse? those labels already carried fucking stupid bands anyway. to me thats hardly selling out, this is not to mention the impressive amount of releases and splits they have under thier belt before they went got stuff released on bigger labels. selling out is going mainstream, conglomerate labels,MTV videos.

lowering the bar?

dude grindcore is already the lowest of the low, how could any porno-gore shit raise the bar? when we talk about shit like "brutal death metal" "gore grind" we arent taking about artforms that champion intellectually,philosophically mindblowing lyrical content, poineering multi faceted complex emotions thru sound. most of the bands mentioned here have the cultural,intellectual significance of a fart joke

they dont give a shit about music? they want money?

dude, seth putnam smoked crack for years. its not like he lives in hollywood driving a hummer, lighting cigars with burning hundred dollar bills. the guy rivals bukowski in terms of being a complete loser. and AC hardly have been a productive band thruout its existance, he nearly died 2 years ago trying to commit suicide.

I'm not specifically calling THEM sellouts. I'm saying they are lowering the bar for what most of the music industry considers good music. They give out one clear message. "We are fucking losers but we still got signed." Whether that's to a shitty label or not, I think getting signed to any label should be a good honor to a band and such an honor shouldn't be squandered on skidmarks such as Anal Cunt. They have shown the world that mediocrity and pure shit is acceptable in music.

I don't need the music I listen to to be phylisophical. I'm all for brutality in music. But there's a fine line between brutality, and trash. Cannibal Corpse is, in my opinion, one of the most brutal bands out there. They can still keep up the power without getting sloppy. I think they commit themselves to make sure that doesn't happen. That's what I'm looking for in a band. Yeah, CC have made a few videos and stuff, but I would hardly call them sellouts.
Slipknot, on the other hand, needs a reality check. For the record, I like the music Slipknot makes. I like their sound, and the energy they do put out there, but I HATE the band themselves. They, and I quote you, "Have the intellectual signifigance of a fart joke." They think they are the most brutal band in mainstream music. They talk about how much they scared "abunch of record label pussy ass motherfuckers." For committing to their music and not getting TOO sloppy and crap, I would rally them with bands like CC. But their attitude is fucking bullshit. They are a joke and they don't know it.

They are the kind of bands Anal Cunt is indirectly influencing. Bands that'll pretend. Bands who are too lazy to take music seriously.

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How could you not want to just fuck around and get to travel to Europe and Japan knowing that your music is a complete joke? It's great. It's a total slap in the face to the entire conglomerate of music.


If I wanted to go to Europe, I would go to Europe. I take music , among other things, very seriously, and I hate it when people make a joke out of it. People who lack disipline, poeple who would rather get piss drunk and scream into a mic than commit themselves to performing a great show.And I'm not just talking about metal music.

When I was in school, I was in the marching band. Contrary to popular belief, it is hard work to rehearse each movement, put it on the field, and perform it. I was proud of the work we did BECAUSE we put hard work into it. People shouldn't have that sense of pride and that feeling of acomplishment handed to them on a platter without working for it. Anal Cunt performs, like, what, how many half assed shows and gets signed? I understand the whole "slap in the face to the whole conglomerate of music." And I know music is a form of expression. But for me, music is also something that I want to push myself with. Reach my potential.

If I wanted to be a "funny" little asshole, I would just shit in a bucket on stage and throw it into a crowd.
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