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jack white is good too, hes not as good as some of the people you're listing, but there's alot of people who are much worse.
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I can definitley understand them not being considered metal now but NEVER  They were one of the first bands to have songs based on the lord of the rings!!!
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No, they were always just considered a rock band. I think the band themselves distanced themselves from being described as metal when the matter arose, particularly when Sabbath arrived on the scene.
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2006-07-30, 12:21
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Well.....I guess you have a point. Black Sabbath was the first band to embrace the "evil" and use distorted guitars 90% of the time. They also were the first popular band to tune down as much as they did if I am correct(not sure). But Zepplin.....and dare i say Queen, is very metal-friendly hard rock. Jimi Hendrix is considered to be hard rock as well but zepplin and queen have more in common with metal than hendrix ever did.
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2006-07-30, 12:27
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2006-07-30, 12:29
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id think of zepplin being metal before id ever think of sabbath.
like, in the 80's, when ozzy left and the world was hair metal n' shit, yeah they were metal, but when they started off zepplin was alot closer to metal
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2006-07-30, 12:34
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id think of zepplin being metal before id ever think of sabbath.
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2006-07-30, 16:41
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2006-07-30, 22:01
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what? how can you think that? i like zepplin WAY more than sabbath, but sabbath was, i think, around before zepplin and they were more metal sounding.
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2006-07-30, 22:06
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Zepplin's first album came out a year before Sabbath's first album did, know your rock history 
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2006-07-30, 22:22
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And Zeppelin's a permutation of an earlier band called The Yardbirds who'd been around for years.
If you don't hear metal on the first six Sabbath albums I doubt you've heard it at all.
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I don't here any metal in Zep and to say that they were more metal than Sabbath is very wide of the mark - Zep certainly didn't have anything as heavy as War Pigs or Iron Man.
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I don't here any metal in Zep and to say that they were more metal than Sabbath is very wide of the mark - Zep certainly didn't have anything as heavy as War Pigs or Iron Man.
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Led zep were blues/rock. I seriously cant understand how they can be classed anything near metal.
Sabbath on the other hand definately had heavy metal riffing. Led zep had rock licks, and blues/pentatonic based solos, let alone the mass of acoustic songs which were definately far from metal.
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Gilmour, Hendrix, Knoppler, Adam Jones (Tool), Clapton, Pat Metheny, Vaughn. There's more to life than metal. Both Opeth and Morbid Angel claim to have been influenced by or enjoyed the music of Pink Floyd. Now if you think know more about music, metal and guitar than Ackerfeld (Opeth - excuse the spelling), you belong in a padded cell.
There's more to guitar than just jacking off your strings and showing off. Any guitarist who can make their guitar speak/sing/howl for itself is worthy of note. Gilmour did that. Hendrix did that. Trey Azagthoth did that. Who gives a shit that one played prog rock, one played hard rock and the other played death metal?
Just because a guitarist doesn't shred doesn't mean he can't. I'm sure many jazz players could out-shred many worshipped metal players... Don't slit your own throat by only accepting metal, you'll sound just the same as some fake punk who only accepts punk as music...
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Led zep were blues/rock. I seriously cant understand how they can be classed anything near metal.
Sabbath on the other hand definately had heavy metal riffing. Led zep had rock licks, and blues/pentatonic based solos, let alone the mass of acoustic songs which were definately far from metal.
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Uuuuhhhh......sabbath was definately blues influenced, especially in the solos too. The first "metal" bands near the popularity level of zep and sabbath to not have an apparent blues influenced was judas priest and Iron Maiden (especially iron maiden).
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Andy Timmons, Stevie Ray Vaughn... That's all I can really think of besides the classics.
By the way, Zeppelin are ROCK. Not metal. They paved the way for metal to be created, but they are not metal in any way. That's like saying Bach is Death/Grindcore or The Beatles are Gore/Technical Thrash.
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Zeppelin were far from the metal of today, but I think the term 'heavy metal' was coined while referring to Zeppelin. The band didn't classify themselves as metal though. They did distance themselves from the term. Zep paved the way for modern metal, right along with Sabbath.
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Stevie Ray Vaughan and Mark Knopfler are my favourites
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Rusty Cooley.
God. 'Nuff said.
Is a god, and still concludes that it would take many lifetimes to master the guitar. And the only ego he has is a realisation of his great speed.
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2006-08-01, 23:05
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I think Rusty Cooley would qualify as a metal guitarist....seeing as he uses Ibanez/Jackson 7 strings and plays neo-classical solos at blistering speed and precision.
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