2006-07-12, 13:43
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tom morello without his wah wah effects, would be a average guitarist... audioslave is a great band but rage against the machine sucks...
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2006-07-13, 02:41
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tom morello without his wah wah effects, would be a average guitarist...
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You are wrong on so many levels I'm not even going to spend the 10 minutes that this needs in order to rebuke your comment.
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2006-07-13, 05:34
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rebuke me...
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2006-07-13, 05:57
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His innovation alone makes him a great guitarist - he sees his guitar as a completely different instrument to the vast majority of other guitarists. Can you make the sounds that he does and with the control that he exhibits? No. I don't no anybody who can even imitate his style, never mind trump it. He isn't just some grunge kid hitting his guitar randomly with a coke can, he placed thought into what he was doing.
Even when Morello adopts a more standard approach to playing he can still blow most guitarists out of the water. Listen to a couple of his solos off RATM's self-titled opus: his playing is fast, crisp, fluid, technically competent and, more importantly, interesting.
Morello is a truly unique guitarist and probably the greatest to emerge from the early-to-mid 90s "grunge" scene. If you can't see that then your appreciation of what constitutes a good guitarist is seriously in need of a re-think. Regardless of how you perceive his bands, there's no doubting that Morello's playing transcends subjectivity.
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2006-07-13, 10:25
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damn... i know all the ratm stuff, but i dont like it... i love it, when he does his minimalist playing with audioslave... sorry mr. wise guy, but i donīt like it... for me almost everything sounded the same...
fuck, i cant describe the thing, because my english is bad... i mean, you shouldnt take everything to serious... okay, he is a very good and maybe revolutionary guitarist, but i hate his wah wah action all the time... sounded so fucking gay...
and i really donīt need to re-think... kill me because i dont like ratm...
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2006-07-13, 15:30
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damn... i know all the ratm stuff, but i dont like it... i love it, when he does his minimalist playing with audioslave... sorry mr. wise guy, but i donīt like it... for me almost everything sounded the same...
fuck, i cant describe the thing, because my english is bad... i mean, you shouldnt take everything to serious... okay, he is a very good and maybe revolutionary guitarist, but i hate his wah wah action all the time... sounded so fucking gay...
and i really donīt need to re-think... kill me because i dont like ratm...
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My argument wasn't based on you liking Rage Against The Machine. I shouldn't have to explain that since it is explicitly stated within my post. RATM are far from my favourite band, in fact they're pretty low on my list, but to dismiss Morello's abilities as nothing more than the utilisation of guitar effects is sheer folly.
You even admit that Morello is very good and revolutionary, but you dislike his playing because wah-wah sounds "gay". Way to appreciate a musician's talents. Trey Azagthoth overuses wah-wah at times and some of his solos grate, but I'm not going to dismiss his ability as a soloist on these grounds when he also produces moments of genius; to do so would be cutting my nose off to spite my face.
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2006-07-13, 15:46
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and i say it again... you shouldnt take everything to serious...
i didnīt understand half of your post..
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2006-07-13, 16:05
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Serious? That ain't serious, kid. That's called arguing - and justifying my viewpoint - without resorting to insults or letting subjectivity get in the way.
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2006-07-13, 17:14
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damn... i dont understand... and dont call me kid...
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2006-07-13, 18:08
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ROFL, then quit arguing. Dismissing a well thought out counter point with "it sounds fucking gay" proves that you are either 15, or an idiot.
I personally dont care for Tom Morello but I can recognize originality when I hear it. And I agree that he has some really slick playing on RATM's self titled album.
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2006-07-14, 01:22
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i did quit arguing... and damn... i admit that he is "a very good and maybe revolutionary guitarist" and that he should take my post not to serious... what do want? that i fall on my knees and kiss him his feet? idiots... both...
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2006-07-14, 02:44
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Not at all. I merely refuted your statement, and if that makes me an idiot then so be it.
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2006-07-14, 03:29
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i did quit arguing... and damn... i admit that he is "a very good and maybe revolutionary guitarist" and that he should take my post not to serious... what do want? that i fall on my knees and kiss him his feet? idiots... both...
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I just because of the way you worded your original statement. You stated that without effects, Tom Morello is just an average guitarist. It wouldnt be an issue if said this was your opinion, but to say it as if its a fact is bound to get you flamed.
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2006-07-28, 01:13
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2006-07-28, 01:30
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tom morello without his wah wah effects, would be a average guitarist... audioslave is a great band but rage against the machine sucks...
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have you heard him without his wahs? he's more than an average guitarist.
his effects make him unique. he can make any sound with his guitar, practically.
and audioslave sucks, rage against the machine is much much better.
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2006-07-28, 02:48
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have you read the rest of the posts? goddamnit... shut up...
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2006-07-28, 03:47
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also the fact that he taught himself is another great achievement
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2006-07-28, 20:21
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I agree with all of the postive things said about Morello. It was very impressive to see how he used the instrument in many unconventional ways. I also think that Rge Against the Machine was the ONLY band that could bring the rap/rock genre to a respectable and enjoyable level. And is Jimmy Page considered a metal guitarist? I'm not being sarcastic cause most people don't consider Zepplin to be metal and I felt the list was sorely lacking without him on it.
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Compare these people to the norm, say, Muhammed Suiįmez for instance who seems to think that lots of poorly strung together riffs spaced awkwardly around fancy monotonous sweeps covers up the fact that his ideas and songs are really quit boring.
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2006-07-28, 22:50
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And is Jimmy Page considered a metal guitarist? I'm not being sarcastic cause most people don't consider Zepplin to be metal and I felt the list was sorely lacking without him on it.
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I think he was mentioned in at least one post... As far as Zeppelin being metal... in their day, they were. By today's standards they are more hard rock than metal.
My favorite non-metal guitarists? Hmmm....
Mr. Page
Stevie Ray
Richie Blackmore (also could be considered metal)
Robert Johnson
Plenty more...way to many to list
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2006-07-30, 11:11
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Zeppelin have never been considered metal.
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