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Old 2006-05-13, 22:02
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Old 2006-05-14, 00:02
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I also don't understand why people seem to hate Phil so much. You people trying to tell me that you never have been arrogant, and have never said some really mean shit that you didn't mean when you were mad at someone?

Maybe I'm alone in this, and it seems that way, but I feel bad for the guy. Bad blood or not, sometimes even for a moment things should be put aside. It'd be pretty damn hard for me to tell someone not to go to someone else's funeral. I highly doubt Phil was the only person who said/did something wrong through the whole situation.
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I also don't understand why people seem to hate Phil so much. You people trying to tell me that you never have been arrogant, and have never said some really mean shit that you didn't mean when you were mad at someone?

Maybe I'm alone in this, and it seems that way, but I feel bad for the guy. Bad blood or not, sometimes even for a moment things should be put aside. It'd be pretty damn hard for me to tell someone not to go to someone else's funeral. I highly doubt Phil was the only person who said/did something wrong through the whole situation.

Agreed, and it was hard for me to watch too, mainly when Jerry Abbott started crying.... How sad man... Pantera is definitely my favorite band, gotta love Dime...
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Old 2006-05-14, 06:47
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i respect phil, everybody's putting him down just out of revenge or whatever.

when im gonna see him (and rex) with down next week, i swear to got i'm gonna be in fucking heaven
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Ya, it was hard at times, but when you see Dime chugging down a beer, or laughing at shit in the clips your like, "We were lucky to have him around, even if it was cut short." I saw him in June 2004, Damage Plan opening for Slayer, he was FANTASTIC. I would give ANYTHING to see that show again.

And about Phil: hes a prick. Good vocalist. Good songwriter. Shit person. Hes Pantera's Dave Mustaine. And he can go to hell. You can't ignore someone for over a year, then expect to be their best friend just like that. They had some bad issues, and now they'll never be done with. And thats something harsh to live with...
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Since everyone's talking about it: Phil is an asshole of the particular type who lives in the moment. Meaning that he talks a lot of shit and probably means very little of it the next day. Which is why he tends to feel misrepresented when he reads his own interviews and so on. But it's also why he can't be held entirely responsible for the shit he talks. He didn't want Dime to get severely beaten even when he said it, and had it happened he'd be broken up about it. And since something much worse happened, he's never going to be able to come off well again.

But ultimately he didn't kill Dime, and he only talked a lot of shit after Dime and Vinny came out and talked shit about everything he did outside of Pantera (as though Damageplan was better than Down). He was an asshole and said all sorts of shit he shouldn't have, but almost everybody I know acts the same way. Everybody says shit they don't really want to see happen, and it's a shame to be held responsible for words as though they were actions.

All that said, I haven't seen this yet.
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I also don't understand why people seem to hate Phil so much. You people trying to tell me that you never have been arrogant, and have never said some really mean shit that you didn't mean when you were mad at someone?

Maybe I'm alone in this, and it seems that way, but I feel bad for the guy. Bad blood or not, sometimes even for a moment things should be put aside. It'd be pretty damn hard for me to tell someone not to go to someone else's funeral. I highly doubt Phil was the only person who said/did something wrong through the whole situation.



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And about Phil: hes a prick. Good vocalist. Good songwriter. Shit person. Hes Pantera's Dave Mustaine. And he can go to hell. You can't ignore someone for over a year, then expect to be their best friend just like that. They had some bad issues, and now they'll never be done with. And thats something harsh to live with...

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I'm guessing you don't agree? Or are you just replying to my post to make me mad?
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Calm down, lol.
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Old 2006-05-14, 14:57
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Like I just said, calm down. I disagree, cause he was going through some tough shit and you're just saying he's a prick and should go to hell.
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i kinda agree with zertron to be honest

and i disagree (i mean dont share the same opinion) with pst when he sais damageplan is better than down
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Old 2006-05-14, 15:14
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Kinda weird to think they recorded The Great Southern Trendkill in seperate places.
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Old 2006-05-14, 15:17
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yeah indeed, i was surprised when i heard that, i mean it sounds so tight and soulfull. well maybe the isolation just helped phil sound aggressive
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Old 2006-05-14, 15:19
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Well, whatever the fuck it was, it helped. It's my favorite Pantera album.
Kinda cool how Seth was on that album too.
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Old 2006-05-14, 15:21
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yeah indeed, the titeltrack is fucking sick

check the cover me and my friend did recently:
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Well, I watched the program. I'm not really surprised that they talked so much about Phil, since it was mostly in the context of the very public controversies he caused and how he contributed to the disintegration of the band, as well as his friendship with the Abbott's. I can't help but feel sorry for him, but I also can't help but see that he dug his own hole. He's in the unfortunate position of somebody who talked some shit that would normally be bad but forgivable, but the world changed and lit the words in a different way, and he'll never be able to live them down. So, in a way, he's right to say that it's everybody else's fault as much as his own - it isn't, but it's equal parts his own fault and the fault of the world ('world' here meaning the situation, not some worldwide conspiracy). He's both in the wrong and fucked over by his situation, and it's a damn shame.

Anyway, some good shit. Always a little surprising, for some reason, to see people who aren't really in the metal scene to think of Pantera as the most extreme and heavy shit out there, but everybody's got their blinders. I wish the focus had been more on the band and less on their break up, since the good years and music are what should be remembered, but that's also to be expected. Everybody likes controversy.

I didn't say that Damageplan were better than Down. I said Vinny and Dime started talking shit about Phil's sideprojects as though Damageplan were better than Down. Meaning that I disagree with that attitude.
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yeah indeed, the titeltrack is fucking sick

check the cover me and my friend did recently:
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