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Old 2006-04-17, 10:33
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i have tried a few times to try and get into grind but always fail. i dont understand what there is to like abou it? the only stuff grind i like is Nasum and thats because of the melodic parts. what do you appreciate and enjoy about grind? its just labor for me to sit through a pig destoryer album

i want some real view points as to what there is to like about it because there has to be something

bands i have tried-

xxx maniak, pig destroyer, birdflesh, rotten sound...
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Old 2006-04-17, 10:41
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i have tried a few times to try and get into grind but always fail. i dont understand what there is to like abou it? the only stuff grind i like is Nasum and thats because of the melodic parts. what do you appreciate and enjoy about grind? its just labor for me to sit through a pig destoryer album

i want some real view points as to what there is to like about it because there has to be something

bands i have tried-

xxx maniak, pig destroyer, birdflesh, rotten sound...


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Old 2006-04-17, 10:42
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I like it if I'm in the mood for it, but its not something I listen to very often. I guess if I am on a speedwhack but not in the mood for death metal I choose grind and/or all the subgenres of grind. Some good grindcore/hardcore bands to check out:

Psyopus
Sleep Terror (More like death metal with jazz fusion elements than pure grind)
Ion Dissonance (an OK listen here and there)
Dillinger Escape Plan (Some interesting stuff)
Napalm Death (they have some alright material as well, overrated, though)
Pig Destroyer (If I want to hear pure shit from my speakers)

Keep in mind a lot of the "grind" bands are becoming more and more hardcore influenced. The above stated shit is only my opinion, check it out and make your own. Maybe you just can't like grind, in the same way many of us dont like pop music.
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Old 2006-04-17, 11:11
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It's totally raw, minimal simple expression. Super intense, fast, killing. That's what I like about it.
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Old 2006-04-17, 11:48
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It's totally raw, minimal simple expression. Super intense, fast, killing.


That pretty much sums it up. Obsolete, minimalistic rawness. Like having your face sandblasted for a few hours and then rubbed in salt. It's not something i'll listen to all the time, but it's a good alternative, and some (few) bands actually have some lyrical expressions and generate an atmosphere that certainly highlights minimalistic expression. It's like audio nihilism without all the bullshit. Straight to the point music.
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Old 2006-04-17, 11:53
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I love grind, 'cause it's fast, ruthless, brutal... ect. all that was mentioned pretty much. Then again, I wouldnt trust my opinion, cause I love Anal Cunt
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Old 2006-04-17, 12:54
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transient, i feel the same way. pig destroyer, dare i say it, is just too fuckin intense. i think grind gives some truth to the stereotype that metal is just "noise"
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Try Terrorizer or face death. Greatest grindcore band in existence next to Napalm Death. Goregrind, porn grind, and dumb shit like Anal Cunt is stupid and gives grind a bad name, real grind has a meaning. I like grind because it's fast, energetic, straight-forward, and fuckin raw and far more entertaining than a lot of bands that try to be super br00t3l.

I like Nasum and Rotten Sound(which are pretty much Nasum worship). But Napalm Death and Terrorizer kick the ass of just about every grindcore band out there. Terrorizer are tighter than most grind bands(they've got Pete Sandoval on drums and used to have David Vincent on bass). They recently got back together with Tony Norman on guitars and some dude from a crust punk band on bass, and they recorded a new album, it's going to kick ass.
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The music?

Yes, and I aware how shitty it is too.
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Old 2006-04-17, 13:52
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I'd go with early Napalm Death, first 2 Carcass albums or Terrorizer World Downfall. Those albums are very grind yet have the dynamics that most later grind lacks.
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Old 2006-04-17, 14:07
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Try Terrorizer or face death. Greatest grindcore band in existence next to Napalm Death. Goregrind, porn grind, and dumb shit like Anal Cunt is stupid and gives grind a bad name, real grind has a meaning. I like grind because it's fast, energetic, straight-forward, and fuckin raw and far more entertaining than a lot of bands that try to be super br00t3l.

I like Nasum and Rotten Sound(which are pretty much Nasum worship). But Napalm Death and Terrorizer kick the ass of just about every grindcore band out there. Terrorizer are tighter than most grind bands(they've got Pete Sandoval on drums and used to have David Vincent on bass). They recently got back together with Tony Norman on guitars and some dude from a crust punk band on bass, and they recorded a new album, it's going to kick ass.

terrorizer sounds intriguing, thank you for the recommendation


symphonies of sickness isnt grind, they have fully developed songs on that album. reek, however, is grind and imo unlistenable (except genital grinder)
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It's totally raw, minimal simple expression. Super intense, fast, killing. That's what I like about it.


thats why i love it. its a burst of balls out energy.
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4 letters. C. O. D. C. Circle of Dead Children are the gods of grind. Them and Napalm Death are my favorite grinders.

People like grind the same way people like Death Metal, the same way people like Black, Thrash, Gore, etc... cause its heavy.

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I've always enjoyed goregrind as preferred to grindcore. It's alot more groove oriented at times and not always so straight forward. However I do love Nasum, Napalm Death, Rotten Sound and Terrorizer.

As for bands to check out I'd say General Surgery is worth a shot.

http://generalsurgery.nu/downloadpr...load.php?file=0 Song off their 2005 demo and is gonna be on their new album I believe.

Other bands I'd recommend are Last days of Humanity, Haemorrhage, Nyctophobic, NECRONY, Ahumado Granujo and Dead Infection.
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Old 2006-04-17, 17:08
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I just can't get into LDoH I don't know why. and I love goregrind. But the rest there aren't too bad.
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There is grind out there for everyone. If you're looking for some more melody check out newer Carcass, Cephalectomy, and Lykathea Aflame. You'd probably like Cephalectomy, Tranny. Good nutty stuff. The band to take the prize is Lykathea Aflame. They're not "pure" grind but nothing is. Except me. And Sparkle Motion. But thats me too.

CODC is good, but they've got some equally poor material.
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Old 2006-04-17, 21:56
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i have human harvest and like it only on account of the vocals


i love LA but they are very far from the kind of grind i am talking about. i dont think they even come close to qualifying as grind man

cephalectomy i believe i have tried and not liked (dont they have an irish theme or something?) im going to go hunt them down again though

thanks for all the replies though guys, and let it be known i was the first to get into the inevitable "thats not grind!" argument..my apologies
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More spazzy "new" grind.

Heavy Heavy Low Low
Daughters

those are my two to start you off.
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