2007-01-31, 02:11
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my mesa boogie 2x12 is pretty sweet. prolly has more bass than those avatar cabs if thats what u want. i know i do. i picked mine up for $350
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2007-01-31, 02:11
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+1
throw in some v30's to get natural tone.
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Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-01-31, 03:03
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Go Randall for sweet shit, but Avatar is really shit too.
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2007-01-31, 04:18
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Surely Avatar would be more expensive than a used Marshall 1936 2x12?
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2007-01-31, 05:56
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Genz Benz G-flex, if it hasnt been said.
Bogner and Soldano make some of the neatest smaller cabs IMO.
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2007-01-31, 06:20
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Surely Avatar would be more expensive than a used Marshall 1936 2x12?
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Not brand new actually, the Avatars are still probably much better though. They sell for wicked cheap on ebay.
Randall and Ampeg 2x12's or any other brand cab with decent speakers are a decent buy, they show up on ebay often for cheap.
Genz Benz G-Flex is a kickass choice, because its a ported cabinet, and handles insane bass frequencies that will make it sound like a full 4x12. You can pick one up for 350-450$.
And if you live in the EU, Framus 2x12's with V30's are the absolute best bang for the buck cabinet you can possibly buy new. 300 euros is one hell of a deal for em. If I don't end up trading my Engl Fireball for an Engl Pre I'm getting the framus 2x12 myself, I've heard some Laney clips with it and it sounded fuckin amazing.
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(Did you know In Flames had a 2005 album called "Come Clarity"? How prophetic. I think they're trying to tell us all their sperm are dead.)
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2007-01-31, 06:50
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Yeah and thinking about it the 1936 is pretty huge for a 2x12, so not very portable. Which Framus was it, the FR212 CB? I might consider that to pair with an Ampeg VH140C whenever I manage to find one.
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2007-01-31, 08:25
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Yeah framus only make 2 different 2x12's the FR212CB and one that's made out of solid bubinga, but is expensive as fuck. It handles 140W as the V30's are 70 watts each(some people say 60, others 70, and some 4x12 v30 cabs are rated at 300W so they must be 75W, wtf).
Just don't go diming the master volume on your Ampeg and you'll be safe. 
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(Did you know In Flames had a 2005 album called "Come Clarity"? How prophetic. I think they're trying to tell us all their sperm are dead.)
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2007-01-31, 08:37
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My choices would be :
Avatar 2x12 with speakers of choice
Genz Benz G-Flex 2x12
Mesa 2x12
Out of most that I've seen in this thread. I personally would go with the Genz Benz, because everything I've ever heard through a Genz Benz G-Flex sounds awesome.
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2007-02-05, 09:10
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FUCKING HOFF-STYLE!!!!!!!
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V30's ARE 60W not 70w or 75w.
60W, 60W, 60W, 60W....
All cab manufacturers will tell you 70W or something buf if you ASK CELESTION they say 60W.
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2007-02-05, 10:03
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Then why the hell are so many v30 4x12 cabs rated at 280W instead of 240?  Framus rate their 2x12's and 4x12's 100W and 200W respectively, but they're V30's so they're understating it, wonder why?
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(Did you know In Flames had a 2005 album called "Come Clarity"? How prophetic. I think they're trying to tell us all their sperm are dead.)
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2007-02-05, 10:52
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Thats pretty bad that companies are misrepresenting the power handling of cabs, could end up fucking up someones rig. Unless Celestion actually understate the V30 themselves WTF?? On the website it definitely says its 60w though.
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2007-02-05, 13:07
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whatever, when i get enough money i will buy the avatar, 2x12, with red cab and black grille, with V30's, 
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are you telling us that you have 4 boobs...2 small and 2 bigs
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2007-02-05, 13:18
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You might want a higher wattage cab than that if you're gonna get that Ampeg SS/VH just to be safe.
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2007-02-05, 14:49
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You might want a higher wattage cab than that if you're gonna get that Ampeg SS/VH just to be safe.
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do SS amps get those high wattage spikes that tubes do? I thought it had to do something with adding current in the preamp (for disto), which would in turn dump more current into the poweramp, giving it current spikes when you pick harder...
But anyways, for an amp to spike above its RMS, you have to have it cranked... and doing that to SS typically makes it sound like poo... so should he really worry?
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Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-02-05, 15:01
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should i really worry?
im kinda poor for a 4X12
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2007-02-05, 18:02
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The Ampeg VH140C is a 140W RMS stereo amphead. Seems a little too close for comfort in a 120-140W 2x12 cab. So long as you don't dime it past 2 o' clock you'll be safe, but even that'll be fuckin loud! The VH140C despite being SS is a ridiculously loud amp and kicks ass at high volumes apparently.
I would just suggest some speakers that can handle a few more watts to be safe unless you're not gonna be playing the amp at retardedly high volumes.
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2007-02-05, 18:47
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do you recommend any 2X12 that could handle this head (SS-140C)?
cuz if not i will just go ahead with the avatar 2X12
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2007-02-05, 19:02
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do you recommend any 2X12 that could handle this head (SS-140C)?
cuz if not i will just go ahead with the avatar 2X12
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get a 2x12 with eminence Manowars. Theyre 120 watts RMS, 240 peak each, built for power metal, and way cheaper than celestions. I've only ever heard good things about them.
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Originally Posted by Dahmers Fridge
In the US "fanny" is a word used to describe the ass or butt. Here in the UK "fanny" is a lady garden (vagina)
I was very bemused as a youngster watching the Golden Girls when Blanche said she was going to "spank her fanny" I had visions of a geriatric vertical bacon sandwich red and bruised from being disciplined!!!
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2007-02-05, 19:23
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120W RMS each speaker and cheaper than V30's? Damn. Other Eminences should be taken into consideration.
Another suitable alternative = Celestion G12K-100's. The same ones in my Mode 4 4x12 cab that I sold. MASSIVE lowend and not so much mids, kinda scooped, you may or may not like this. But for a VH140C I would suggest something with more mids.
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