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Old 2006-04-09, 06:33
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by looking at the pics n the video it looks like he is using a fretted

i kno he had a fretless version but he got a new fretted neck n started to use that.

probably lined
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Old 2006-04-09, 09:59
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yea dude, i just got some pliers and ripped em out, it really is easy once you get your technique down
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Old 2006-04-09, 10:02
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Are the bartolinis aftermarket or is your bass the BTB series?
I play the SR506 too...amazing action and amazing neck, but the electronics on it definately need to be upgraded. I'm buying a 6-string Spector (for a VERY good price, I mad add...) and the EMG's in it sound amazing.

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Old 2006-11-13, 20:21
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I just defretted my old Oscar Schmidt bass and so far everthing is going smoothly, but I want to know if it is alright to use any regular house hold wood finish to use on the fretboard..

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Old 2006-11-23, 19:31
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Putting a whammy bar on a fretless bass is almost redundant because you can easily manipulate the pitch as there are no frets....
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Old 2006-11-24, 19:25
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nah, theres just no way to get the kind of dives and pulls Im looking for without the whammy.
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Old 2006-11-26, 15:41
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nah, theres just no way to get the kind of dives and pulls Im looking for without the whammy.

Why sure there is. Slide!
You've got almost two octaves worth of sliding from a given note (depending on where you place it) at your disposal. I don't know much about whammys but I would guess that 2 octaves is more than enough.
Of course if you plan on using the whammy for harmonics then its a different story, but I'm pretty sure that except for natural harmonics, on fretless harmonics are nearly impossible.
On the other hand, I have difficulty getting pinch harmonics to be loud on fretted bass, let alone being able to do them quickly enough so that I don't have to stop to position my fingers, so I doubt that's why you want a whammy.
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Old 2006-11-27, 20:33
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well, thats a little more moving around than I want to do...
playing should always be comfortable, and building stamina is one thing, but why waste energy flinging yourself all over the neck when you could just move a bar thats right by your hand anyway?
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on fretless harmonics are nearly impossible.

you couldnt be more wrong
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Old 2006-11-28, 20:42
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well, thats a little more moving around than I want to do...
playing should always be comfortable, and building stamina is one thing, but why waste energy flinging yourself all over the neck when you could just move a bar thats right by your hand anyway?

Well, it probably isn't THAT hard, and if it saves you at least 500$ ... why not at least give it a try?




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you couldnt be more wrong

Please enlighten me.
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Old 2006-11-29, 17:24
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harmonics are much easier on fretless, you just have to have good intonation, and without that...you suck reguardless of whether or not youve ever had frets.

I play an upright bass,so I know what im talking about when I say moving around constantly sucks.
its all about being able to play for a long time. If youre going to be playing for 4+ hours at a time, throwing yourself all over your instrument really wont help much.
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Old 2006-11-30, 10:36
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harmonics are much easier on fretless, you just have to have good intonation, and without that...you suck reguardless of whether or not youve ever had frets.

I play an upright bass,so I know what im talking about when I say moving around constantly sucks.
its all about being able to play for a long time. If youre going to be playing for 4+ hours at a time, throwing yourself all over your instrument really wont help much.
So then you mean for artificial harmonics too? Can you do them well enough so that you don't have to stop to place your hands? And if so, how?


Speaking of intonation, does anyone know how to fix the problem I have?
My B string is slightly too sharp (what I mean is, the open string is perfect B but the 24th fret is 3-4 Hz too sharp), but I have made the string as long as possible by adjusting the bridge saddle for that string. Is there anything else I can do?
My strings are fairly high up right now, but I don't know if having less relief on the neck and lowering (if necessary) the action would change much for intonation, apart from me having to readjust it and probably have the same problem as before on the B string.
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Old 2006-11-30, 19:11
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So then you mean for artificial harmonics too? Can you do them well enough so that you don't have to stop to place your hands? And if so, how?


Speaking of intonation, does anyone know how to fix the problem I have?
My B string is slightly too sharp (what I mean is, the open string is perfect B but the 24th fret is 3-4 Hz too sharp), but I have made the string as long as possible by adjusting the bridge saddle for that string. Is there anything else I can do?
My strings are fairly high up right now, but I don't know if having less relief on the neck and lowering (if necessary) the action would change much for intonation, apart from me having to readjust it and probably have the same problem as before on the B string.

part 1 - practice
part 2 - bridge or neck adjustment
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Old 2006-12-02, 11:46
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part 1 - practice
part 2 - bridge or neck adjustment
part 1 - Do you recommend the thumb for pinch harmonics or a finger (like the pinky maybe)? Out of everything I've tried, there is nothing that gets a note out nearly as loud as regular plucked notes. And this is true even if I pluck really hard.

Tap harmonics are easier to do, but these aren't loud either, not matter how hard I hit the string.

part 2 - I suppose I could use a setup anyway ...


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Old 2006-12-02, 21:37
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tapped harm's arent about force
you have to hit right perfectly over the fret

as for the above part, use your thumb
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Old 2007-06-17, 14:45
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i plan to defret my 5 string bass aswell..so the people who have done it is it working out fine? or is it just better to go with a new fretless bass
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Old 2007-06-19, 10:55
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In regards to defretting basses, the best thing to do is get a soldering iron and heat up the fret first, then work it out with pliers. Heating up the fret will melt the glue that holds it in place, making it easier to remove.
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Old 2007-06-20, 19:29
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In regards to defretting basses, the best thing to do is get a soldering iron and heat up the fret first, then work it out with pliers. Heating up the fret will melt the glue that holds it in place, making it easier to remove.

thats ingenious.

also invest in a set of fret pullers, 25 bucks never made your life easier.
IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you fill the frets with wood filler as soon as you get all of the frets out. if you dont that thing is going to warp worse than anything you've ever seen.
and sand it alot
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