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Old 2006-01-07, 03:08
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I think the fastest drummer is the Berzerker drummer. Find me a faster passage ANYWHERE than on Death Reveals at 1.15

Also, same drummer same band same album, find me a faster drum beat than Disregard [apart from the whole thing being insane ESPECIALLY the last bit is fast as fuck]

And yes on Dissimulate they had a real drummer.
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Old 2006-01-07, 04:56
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When I posted up the Roddy I, Monarch studio videos, .


Hey, where is that video????
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Old 2006-01-07, 07:53
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Roddy has shown in other videos he is capable of way more than just blasting at 270bpm. The guy's a nut. However, I still like Flo more than Roddy. Flo has a more unique style, and uses more styles from other genres to keep it all sounding interesting. He would be my favourite drummer, if it wasn't for Lille Grueber. That guy is shockingly underrated, even in death metal circles, and I don't like it. Like Flo, he has a totally unique style, is ridiculously skilled (ie. much more so than your average DM blaster) but he does a slightly better job of bringing the guitar riffs to life if you ask me.
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Old 2006-01-07, 16:40
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A guy that doesn't seem to get much attention is David Gray from the band Akercocke, I know jackshit about drums, but the dude's really good, great blaster, spices stuff up with jazzy things all over the place, great drum sounds (even though most of it is triggers). He used to work as a session drummer I think.
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Old 2006-01-07, 18:20
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Saw Ackercocke a while ago, pretty impressive stuff indeed.
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Old 2006-01-07, 21:22
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Death metal drummers don't get much recognition because it takes more than speed to be good. Most DM drummers are just pure speed. Like shredders, impressive but boring.
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Old 2006-01-08, 02:13
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What the FUCK! This isn't a fucking thread to come say who you think is better than the other. It's about opinions of other drummers to extreme metal drummers. People saying "I think Derek sucks" or " I like Flo better than Derek" should be put in a fucking home. Your stupidity should be put on public display and laughed at.
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Old 2006-01-08, 02:14
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I would dignify that with a sensible comment but I have had enough about trolling death metal drummers by saying 'ah its all speed n double bass n shit, anyone can do that'

so I am saying this with as much Venom and Spite as I can muster:


FUCK OFF YOU CUNT!!! GO FUCKING UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ABOUT DRUMMING AND DEATH METAL BEFORE YOU FUCKING POST YOUR BULLSHIT UNINFORMED WORTHLESS FUCKING OPINION


THE NEXT MOTHER FUCKER WHO MAKES A BULL SHIT COMMENT DIES!!!!

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Old 2006-01-08, 13:29
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Um...aye?

Saying 'ah its all speed n double bass n shit, anyone can do that' is a perfectly reasonable answer to the question of why death metal drummers don't get the 'recognition' they 'deserve'. It doesn't mean it's right, it shows the reason someone would not give 'deserved recognition' to death metal drummers and thus provides an answer to the original question.

As a side note, death metal fans do tend to put a large premium on technicality and in the drumming department that usually comes out as speed. They also tend to care more about gear and other such 'serious' practical aspects to music than most other "underground" music fans.
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Old 2006-01-08, 20:23
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Saying 'ah its all speed n double bass n shit, anyone can do that' is a perfectly reasonable answer to the question of why death metal drummers don't get the 'recognition' they 'deserve'. It doesn't mean it's right, it shows the reason someone would not give 'deserved recognition' to death metal drummers and thus provides an answer to the original question.


not it isn't though that is the point, because it ISN'T all double bass n shit, Death metal drumming is the hardest form of drumming IMO, I mean Jazz is hard as fuck due to the technical nature of the style, but Jazz drumming isn't anywhere near as Physically demanding as death metal, sure you have drummers like Paul from CC who's style is raw, un technical straight out aggression, for the style and the band is perfect, then you get cats like Flo who do stuff that can make Jazz drummers wince at twice the speed that they would do it in Jazz etc. thats why I get fucked off to high hell when some stupid idiot says that, on a general drumming forum I can live with it, when you come on to a metal forum, and say that shit, you should fuck off.
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Old 2006-01-08, 21:05
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Word. At least me and NZ are on the right track here.
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What the FUCK! This isn't a fucking thread to come say who you think is better than the other. It's about opinions of other drummers to extreme metal drummers. People saying "I think Derek sucks" or " I like Flo better than Derek" should be put in a fucking home. Your stupidity should be put on public display and laughed at.


Chill the fuck out biatch.
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Old 2006-01-09, 08:52
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not it isn't though that is the point, because it ISN'T all double bass n shit,........ thats why I get fucked off to high hell when some stupid idiot says that, on a general drumming forum I can live with it, when you come on to a metal forum, and say that shit, you should fuck off.


1: That's exactly what I meant - it isn't all "double bass n shit", but the fact that people think it is is the reason death drummer don't get the 'recognition they deserve'. Question answered.

2: I know NZ isn't exactly a very conducive place to creative life and personal development, but "getting fucked off to high hell" because of what some twit says is just pointless. If I was a stupid idiot I'd be laughing my stupid idiotic ass off at yours and Execrator's responses. Fortunately I'm staring at the screen with a blank expression instead.
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Old 2006-01-10, 00:14
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I have had to deal with too many shitty rock drummers who play the same fucking rock/pseudo jazz beats bitching about Death metal/metal in general drumming, so yes when one more person makes an idiotic comment I do look loving towards my samurai sword with evil ides of dismemberment


Ps I finally got the Flo Drum dvd, it is fucking awesome, you all need to get it and see it, very worth the money my parents paid for it (yeah it was my chrissy pressy) the first DVD is Warm ups, stretches, exercises and the grind library which gives you the basic blast and grind beats there some other stuff I haven't accessed yet, the second DVD is what REALLY makes it worthwhile, shit loads of flo solo footage and Cryptopsy footage and lots of awesome stuff!!!
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Old 2006-01-10, 21:38
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If you don't like our posts, then stay the fuck out of the drum forum. Unless you will actually be helpfull.
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Old 2006-01-11, 00:09
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I wouldn't make blanket statements like 'death metal is the most physically demanding.' I've seen at least one jazz drummer - the South Side's own Avriel Ra - whose physicality was ridiculous, by whatever standard. It all was ridiculous, actually; I've never been more impressed by a drum performance. But he's not a common jazz drummer, and that's neither here nor there.

Death metal drummers will get recognition when death metal itself gets recognition. Most people don't even know what it sounds like; how can they be expected to appreciate it? Anybody who's actually attuned to music will be impressed by metal musicians, but that's a fairly small number of people, especially considering the number of them who've actually been exposed to the music. This is fairly late in the game to be realizing that death metal's an underexposed genre in comparison to genre x.
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Old 2006-01-11, 15:55
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Death metal drummers will get recognition when death metal itself gets recognition. Most people don't even know what it sounds like; how can they be expected to appreciate it? Anybody who's actually attuned to music will be impressed by metal musicians, but that's a fairly small number of people, especially considering the number of them who've actually been exposed to the music. This is fairly late in the game to be realizing that death metal's an underexposed genre in comparison to genre x.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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Old 2006-01-14, 14:46
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Old 2006-03-04, 04:49
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Drumming is drumming, it's repetative. Yeah most death metal drummers sound the same, but its the not just death metal drummers its like that with any genre of drumming. But seriously now, are there any death metal drummers that get recognized by the drumming community...

I agree with this opinion...
most deathmetal drummers are just playing mostly simple beats.. So everybody thinks they cant play...
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Old 2006-03-04, 11:53
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I agree with this opinion...
most deathmetal drummers are just playing mostly simple beats.. So everybody thinks they cant play...

What the fuck? Are you joking? Maybe Paul from CC but the rest definitly not. And people thinking that death metal drummers can't play isn't the reason why they don't get noticed.
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