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cheaters?
when any of you people figure out a song, do you cheat and slow the music down or do you listen to it at full speed and figure it out. when i do it, i listen at full speed and try and figure out wut scales/arpeggios theyre using then build off that.
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2005-12-19, 01:06
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I use to tab all my songs by just listening to it normally until I found out about transcribe and went back over my tabs to realise there was quite a few mistakes.
I wouldn't call slowing down the songs and taking away vocals cheating, it's almost impossible to ACCURATLY tab a technical death metal song by just listening to it at full speed. Some songs i've been listening to for years and decided to put them in transcribe and slow them down only to hear notes I had never even noticed before. You'd be suprised.
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2005-12-19, 10:48
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I NEVER slow it down main reason for that is i don't know how but i aslways work stuff out at the same pace.
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2005-12-19, 11:04
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I use to tab all my songs by just listening to it normally until I found out about transcribe and went back over my tabs to realise there was quite a few mistakes.
I wouldn't call slowing down the songs and taking away vocals cheating, it's almost impossible to ACCURATLY tab a technical death metal song by just listening to it at full speed. Some songs i've been listening to for years and decided to put them in transcribe and slow them down only to hear notes I had never even noticed before. You'd be suprised.
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Where can I download this 'transcribe' software from?
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2005-12-19, 11:31
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I wouldn`t really call any form of help for cheating, its not a contest ( well usually not). I don`t use vocal cut, slow down and other stuff that much, but I won`t hesitate to do so when I do need it. It`s about getting the tabs as accurate as possible, not to tab it " as natural as possible".
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2005-12-19, 11:39
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How do you slow down songs?
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2005-12-19, 11:41
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Go into windows media player < play < play speed < slow
It dosn`t always help that much though, it REALLY fucks up the sound. If its any help or not really depends on the production of the song.
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2005-12-19, 12:03
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Slow Tempo
Well, I do slow down the tempo sometimes to catch the solos... I don't think is cheating, is just a way to help you tab best and accurate. I also use the videos to see the notes in the solos...
I don't see it like a crime or cheating, slowing down the tempo... cheaters are people that tab doing copy and paste from tabs already done. Everybody has the right to submit a tab the way they hear it as long as is genuine work.
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2005-12-19, 12:55
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Where can I download this 'transcribe' software from?
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i'm with this guy, where can you get this software you speak of?
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2005-12-19, 13:01
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Only time Ive ever done this was with the Skin To Liquid outro solo in Phils tab, I slowed down the song in audacity, stretched it for about double the length and tabbed it to that. Of course theres a descent in pitch, so you then just raise everything up however many steps is necessary when youve got it all done.
This said it wasnt really helpful, not really with the tapping licks, where, the notes run together and when slowed down, mess things up.
Its by no means cheating though. If that were the case, everytime I slowed down an arpeggio in my head, id be cheating, too.
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2005-12-19, 13:07
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Software
Well, I use a software called Sound Forge... autumncurve, give me your mail adress to send it...
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2005-12-19, 13:08
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2005-12-19, 13:12
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2005-12-19, 15:50
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Sound Forge
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2005-12-19, 16:33
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2005-12-19, 17:13
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2005-12-19, 17:34
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With transcribe, you can be mislead, because it shows you the harmonics of the notes that are being played, so you have to decide which are the harmonics and which are the actual notes (its not always obvious).
for instance:
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will have harmonics that appear to be
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its still quite useful though, so is soundforge 
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2005-12-19, 17:38
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I'll be downloading shortly...Which one do you think is more useful in tabbing out songs? When the song is slowed down in either program, do the pitches stay the same?
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2005-12-19, 18:44
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Thanks naat...downloading now 
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2005-12-19, 19:20
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With transcribe, you can be mislead, because it shows you the harmonics of the notes that are being played, so you have to decide which are the harmonics and which are the actual notes (its not always obvious).
for instance:
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--2--
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will have harmonics that appear to be
--7--
--5--
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--2--
--2--
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its still quite useful though, so is soundforge 
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Are you talking about that key board thing down the bottom?. I haven't ever really tried using that. I just remove the vocals and then use my ears to work it out. If it's a fast song then i'll slow it down. I actually didn't even realise there was a feature that suggested chord names for you.
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