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Old 2005-11-13, 01:35
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Gear for the practice room

Hi!

I have a band, and we have a pretty shitty sound in our pracc room because of the "not-so-good" gear.
I played over a powermixer until now (shitty sound) and the other guitar-player played with a fender 100 watt combo, which, I think, is ok.

But just yesterday I played with the gear of a guitarist of another band. It was a Marshall preamp (think about 100 watt) and peavey cabinets, and I couldnt believe...it sounded so much better.

So, what are you guys using and what do you recommend me to buy?

As far as I know its not necessary to have this "preamp-cabinets" thing. I just want to know, with what gear I definitely won´t have a shitty sound. (and pleace not the most expensive stuff, Im young and poor )

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Old 2005-11-13, 04:58
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for practice I use my framus cobra with 2 mesa cabs. A ge-7 equalizer pedal, a korg overdrive pedal to tighten the sound and a isp noice suppressor pedal.

But that's not affordable for everyone I guess. So with a decent half stack. Let's say a crate blue voodoo or crate schockwave you should have a pretty bitchin sound. blue voodoo can be had for around 300 - 400 secondhand. And the schockwave can also be had for 300 - 400 secondhand

As for cabinets. Marshall 1960 cabinets always sound pretty good. And they are pretty affordable.

Just look around on e-bay and you will find alot of decent stuff
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Old 2005-11-13, 07:08
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It was a Marshall preamp (think about 100 watt)


pre-amps don't come with a wattage rating
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Old 2005-11-13, 07:30
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Old 2005-11-13, 08:16
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You're giving head? Oh boy, that won't go well with your mother my young metalhead. Just kidding, you do know that there is an edit post button, so you can fix typos and other errors? I'd go with a Behringer V-Ampire gead and Hartke 4x12 Cabinet to get started. The head is not the greatest, but its good for sound expirimenting until you find a tone that you like, and then you can find a new head that specializes in that type of sound. If you somehow end up with 500 bucks, get a Peavy Triple X secondhand. It's a GREAT head.
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Old 2005-11-13, 09:16
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lol...I´m not young and I´m not a beginner at all.
I just don´t know much about that amp stuff etc, still I can play my guitar pretty well.

btw...its mostly the way, that the guys who have to impress with their knowledge about all the tech stuff play guitar worst...anyway...thanks for the post. I think I´m gonna try this "head" and see what it sounds like.
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Old 2005-11-13, 09:35
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for practice I use my framus cobra with 2 mesa cabs.

damn man nice, what do you use for your actual gigging?

btw-helvete, i suggest you just go to a music store and try outs lots of different combo amps, we can list hundreds of amps to try out but you just need to go play some for yourselve and see what you like
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Old 2005-11-13, 09:49
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lol...I´m not young and I´m not a beginner at all.
I just don´t know much about that amp stuff etc, still I can play my guitar pretty well.

btw...its mostly the way, that the guys who have to impress with their knowledge about all the tech stuff play guitar worst...anyway...thanks for the post. I think I´m gonna try this "head" and see what it sounds like.


Actually, you are wrong. There are tons of great guitarists on this forum that are great at playing and that know their tech stuff from experience. So, even if you aren't young, you still are a noob on this forum, so keep your mouth shut like I had to when I was first here. Respect all those with higher rankings. And don't get a Line 6

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Old 2005-11-13, 10:00
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Hm, you got 79 posts...ain´t that much...and I joined the forum earlier than you! :P

but, come on, let´s don´t be childish...

I never said that all the guys who know about tech etc. suck at guitar playing. But the ones who can´t play guitar mostly try to impress with knowledge about this tech stuff...nevermind!

I would never buy an amp without playing it before. You never really know what it will sound like.
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Old 2005-11-13, 10:05
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, you still are a noob on this forum,

so are you
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damn man nice, what do you use for your actual gigging?

btw-helvete, i suggest you just go to a music store and try outs lots of different combo amps, we can list hundreds of amps to try out but you just need to go play some for yourselve and see what you like



Thanks man

I also use that setup for gigging. But I store the amp in our practice room. My dad get's kinda annoyed when I have the amp at home. too loud.
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Old 2005-11-13, 10:48
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Yes, but I have been here longer than he has.
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Old 2005-11-13, 11:00
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Hm, you got 79 posts...ain´t that much...and I joined the forum earlier than you! :P

but, come on, let´s don´t be childish...

I never said that all the guys who know about tech etc. suck at guitar playing. But the ones who can´t play guitar mostly try to impress with knowledge about this tech stuff...nevermind!

I would never buy an amp without playing it before. You never really know what it will sound like.


Yea, I know, I'm just giving you reccomendations. Buying stuff without playing it isn't always a bad idea, look around e-bay, you might find what is normally a really nice, expensive amp for half the price. That's how I got my marshall mode four. I never even played it, but I bought it for the good deal and it ended up great. Plus, most music stores don't have a great selection of high-end amps, so buying online is a better bet for that.
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Old 2005-11-13, 11:19
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Yes, but I have been here longer than he has.

really? didnt know may of 04 came after aug of 05...

yea ebay is a damn good place to buy amps, but you can usually still try them out. say that mod 4 you got, you could have still gone to a store and checked out a mod 4 then bought that one on ebay
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Old 2005-11-13, 11:58
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No stores around here had a mode four, its not a big music town, theres only like 3 places, and they only carry entry level to mid level equipment. But it was damn worth the risk of buying before trying.
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Old 2005-11-13, 12:11
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btw...its mostly the way, that the guys who have to impress with their knowledge about all the tech stuff play guitar worst...

that's a lame excuse for not having good gear.

i'm not doubting anyones skills... and i'm not bragging about my own. but i don't see how me having a bunch of nice shit, and knowlegde about it makes me play guitar worse.
it's like those 12 year old kids that have been playing for like 6 months telling ME not to use fx because they "hide your talent" or some lame shit excuse, when really it's because they don't know how to use it.
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Old 2005-11-13, 12:17
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thats not what hes saying xdx, hes saying alot of shitty players try and make up for it by learning all they can about gear and shit, so it makes them seem like theyre awsome because they know everything
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aside from the arguement

what type of sound are you going for and how much money you have. eithe way you'll almost get reccomended a crate blue voodoo, shockwave, and from me a peavey ultra for a head. as for cabs look on ebay or go to www.avatarspeakers.com.
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Old 2005-11-13, 16:17
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Well, I play in a technical death metal band!

Erm, I dont know if I need this "head+cabinets" thing...is it really necessary for a good sound? or are there combos out there which sound really good?

As far as I know, a 100 watt amp is loud enough...I just want a clear sound, because, as I already said, we got a really shitty sound in our practice room.

I dont do much besides guitar playing, so I am able to spend some money on it , but I dont need the most expensive stuff...we are not going to play in big concert halls anyway!

I ´m from austria and checked ebay...but didnt find this crate blue voodoo anywhere besides ebay.com...and shipping from the usa is too expensive for me. But thanks for that recommendations anyway
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Old 2005-11-13, 16:43
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Well, I play in a technical death metal band!

Erm, I dont know if I need this "head+cabinets" thing...is it really necessary for a good sound? or are there combos out there which sound really good?

As far as I know, a 100 watt amp is loud enough...I just want a clear sound, because, as I already said, we got a really shitty sound in our practice room.

I dont do much besides guitar playing, so I am able to spend some money on it , but I dont need the most expensive stuff...we are not going to play in big concert halls anyway!

I ´m from austria and checked ebay...but didnt find this crate blue voodoo anywhere besides ebay.com...and shipping from the usa is too expensive for me. But thanks for that recommendations anyway


A head and cabinet system I use because if I ever decide to switch styles or whatnot, I can switch to a head more designed for that style. Plus I think a cranked tube head and cab beats a combo any day in terms of sound. You can get a good behringer or hartke cab new for I think 300 bucks, same for a head. And 100watts may or may not be loud enough, if its 100watt tube then yea, but 100watts solid state you'd have to hear it, because solid state wattage varies from company to company (guy at guitarcenter told me this). As for companies close to your area, search for Behringer amps, they are all awesome. And I think my head said made in Germany, so I think that may suit to where you live pretty decently. Well, hope I helped a bit.
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