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Old 2005-10-13, 13:17
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Mirror Nihilism

At the base of every existence is a mirror.
To strain the elastic, the muscles must be strained.
The pseudo-democratic multi-psychic rulers promote justice.
To stay in power they must appeal to the common, average human.
This mediocrity-eidolon - full of hatred, delusion, apathy, thirst.
This mediocrity-eidolon - desire to inflict, ignore, blind-believe, chaos-ascend.
The multi-psyches inflict justice upon those who defy them.
Upon those who do not reflect themselves in them or as they.
They are utterly listened to and followed into battle although being the same.
Only reflections. Just greedy capitalists.
Their views become reflected in others.
The orange hatred becomes dominant in the mirror image.
They suffer.
The unreflective suffer.
The multi-psyches suffer.
Only because the multi-psyches persisted.
At the base of every existence is a mirror.
To say another causes suffering is for one to suffer.

Prose I came up with earlier in my thoughts. This mirror-thought has become the core of my perception.
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Come then! What are our thoughts on this?
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Okay, first of all why do you say that the rulers are multi-psychic? Does that just reflect that they have to be mind-readers to work their crowd, so to speak, to know what promises they should make to gain the public trust to stay in an office or be elected to an office?
Then later on you say multi-psyches, but you also say that they inflict justice on those that don't think the same way as them. Multi-psyche makes me think they'd be more flexible in their thinking depending on the issue and the popular idea at the time. That sort of causes conflict with them condemning.
And then as they lead, they are just reflections of the general population which is why they got to be leaders in the first place. Their power and money they want being a reflection of what the population wants too. The ones disagreeing are then suffering for not being part of the system.
And why orange hatred? Is that significant?

I had to read this a few times and look up a word which isn't the first time. It takes me awhile to understand things like this. That's why the questions. I still don't know if I'm getting it or not.
And that brings me to a line you said in this piece that can metaphorically be used in reference to your piece.
"To stay in power they must appeal to the common, average human"
No offence and I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but a lot of people would skip over something like this because it's not "appealing" to the common man.
I like to take a challenge and I think I did understand parts of it so I took a a stab at it.
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Oh, and if it continues to be a mirrored reflection back and forth how can there be any potential for growth since the images would continue to be the same? Someone with a difference, radical or subtle, would have to get in the mix to have any change at all otherwise we'd still be in the stone age.
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This isn't appealing to the common man because it is written in critical defiance of his ways.
Multi-psychic doesn't mean flexible mind powers. It means multiple minds described technically with a hybrid word.
This is meant to be above the common man so this is an exercise of the mind, this prose.
You should really read the dictionary harder. Psychic means of or related to the psyche (mind).
When you read my pieces and you see that hyphen in a word and look in the the big book of words to find it's non-existence, split up the word and find each bit's meaning, meticulously.
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Normally I don't look up the meaning of words I think I already know the meaning of. Maybe I should have started with the first word in the dictionary. I think that would be "a," But don't quote me on that.

So in other words you wrote this in the way that you did to make it sound holier-than-thou. It's purposely looking down it's nose to us little peons that are the majority.

Well, anyways, now that the ole johari window has opened a bit more to your style of writing the next time you post something we'll have a little more information in how the writer's mind works. And I'll make sure I have dictionary.com or my other dictionary handy. I gave it a shot. It's good to have a challenge once in awhile.

By the way, paraphrasing Chaucer back in his day he basically said that writing with "big words" sucks and that was about 800 years ago if I remember correctly.
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By the way, paraphrasing Chaucer back in his day he basically said that writing with "big words" sucks and that was about 800 years ago if I remember correctly.


He was obviously a very ignorant and apathetic person, to me at least. Explore your language and you will find potentially great things. I once stopped at 'superstring' when I was 12 or 13. To such a deep tangent has my way of thinking never been so bent.

On your potential growth idea, are you forgetting other things exist apart from human thought? There is a whole universe that influences our thought and evolution. There is no growth. There is only increase in number of things reflected.

You are a human in many ways. Like nearly all humans, you spectralise everthing. I apparently look down upon you. I am higher in a spectrum that you, again like many humans, create yet hate. A spectrum that those apparently higher within deny. Try explaining your opinion to the Buddha or indeed, in temporal relevance, the Dalai Lama. But perhaps, as a human, you'll respond with an equivalent to: "Ooooh, I feel so threatened by that pacifist bestard." Oh well.
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Knowledge of reflections... an interesting idea. More or less the individual human dilemma on a species ranging scale; we mostly never see more than what's already inside. But tell me, for new things to enter this eternal reflection, if you will, must not someone, consicously or not, bring it in? That seems plausible if the reflection symbolises humanity...
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You don't have many friends, do you?

I think there's a lot of growth going on. Your first and second sentences in your second paragraph are completely contradictory. Maybe there's nothing new under the sun, but there's discoveries of things that haven't been done or understood before. When knowledge is final, if we haven't killed ourselves by then, maybe humanity will cease since there won't be a darn thing to do anymore. If I want to learn about something new I'd prefer not to struggle too much to understand it.
And I'm all for grabbing on to learning new things, but I'll never be as esoteric as you and I can't say as I'd want to be. I like being a ladybug on this planet instead of one of those flurescent fish swimming where not much else is and not much wants to be there. That's just me though.
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Say, are you refering to the both of us, or just the writer...?
Anyway, I do more or less agree with you, Tripple-x. On an esotherical basis of course...
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I looked to see who triple x was and then it dawned on me. lol durr...I've never been called that before.
No, I was just talking about the writer. Everyone has their own ways though and I'm sure there's people who would love reading something like this. I just read a version of Ulysses I think by Tennyson and that's about how I liked the headier stuff to be like. At least it's in a language I can understand more so I can concentrate more on the meaning of the thoughts than the meaning of individual words. That's just me though.
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As you say, everyone has their own ways and as for this, I myself have never seen anything to prove either way better than the other. However, one can't deny that a single word placed correctly can turn anything around - to let a word say more than a thousand pictures.
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Knowledge of reflections... an interesting idea. More or less the individual human dilemma on a species ranging scale; we mostly never see more than what's already inside. But tell me, for new things to enter this eternal reflection, if you will, must not someone, consicously or not, bring it in? That seems plausible if the reflection symbolises humanity...


I've always believed in a God despite the EXTREMELY adversial odds against such beliefs within me. Perhaps this primal 'shining' is God. This is what the 1st Cause argument goes on about although I do not believe God is the creator and master of this world. Satan is, to me. I even defy Buddhism, which has helped fuel and expand my beliefs. Nirvana is Satan consuming your existence. And no one gets me whn I say the exit to the prison is the manager's mouth... (Zen riddle I created in defiance of the dhamma)
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You don't have many friends, do you?

I think there's a lot of growth going on. Your first and second sentences in your second paragraph are completely contradictory. Maybe there's nothing new under the sun, but there's discoveries of things that haven't been done or understood before. When knowledge is final, if we haven't killed ourselves by then, maybe humanity will cease since there won't be a darn thing to do anymore. If I want to learn about something new I'd prefer not to struggle too much to understand it.
And I'm all for grabbing on to learning new things, but I'll never be as esoteric as you and I can't say as I'd want to be. I like being a ladybug on this planet instead of one of those flurescent fish swimming where not much else is and not much wants to be there. That's just me though.


I'd choose my friends wisely, because for humans, all ends in suffering unless they realise so. I do. I look for those who can understand why inanity and elitism suck ass. Spectralise you do again. Ordered are those into their popularities. Insane are we to relinquish. Enlightenment can only be attained by intuition, friends can't help.
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So we don't really have to worry then...? If insight is going to strike us, then it will do so by way of intuition and only luck (yes yes, chance happening to coincide with our conscious wishes...) can give us the needed experience to gain the insight.
Not that it bothers me much, but for the sake of form I will ad it - I hope you do not take offence at the question of what you ground these Truths on?
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Wouldn't inanity and elitism be at two ends of intelliegnce and make the perfect place right in the middle according to that philosophy?
Yes, sometimes the closer the friendship the more the suffering. Sometimes that suffering is in being parted by death of the friend. Believing as I do I feel that those loved and lost will be reunited in the afterlife. Not pushing my beliefs onto you, but just expressing the differences.
Not everyone can be a true friend. The old saying that one is silver and the other gold can mean longevity or the intimacy of the relationship between friends. If something happens to shatter a golden friendship it would certainly be more hurtful than a silver one. One never knows who the golden ones will turn out to be. Some of my most golden have turned out to be net friends that I've exchanged more than casual hellos with. And at times, there's been a trial or so, but we've gotten beyond that. Being friends is just something you have to take a chance with sometimes. Being a silver friend to me is quite easy, but being a golden one takes a little more depth. So I suppose I choose mine with a little care and caution, too. That's as it should be.
Everyone has some type of cultural influence even if they're the beginning of that culture so as soon as one other person shares their views it becomes a popularity. I can say I'm independent in my thinking, but another independent thinker shares that value and becomes part of that popularity called independent thinking.
Spectralizing I imagine to be prismatic. Is that the effect you were meaning with that word? If that's the case I'd love to be that way. I think I am when I write verses and songs because of the breadth of scope in which I try to write. If you have a different meaning for that, please explain.
Your last statement is true to a certain degree. The only way for one to learn is to put thoughts into one's own head and be able to utilize them. I can learn from anyone. I can learn how to climb a tree from a monkey and it can learn to smoke cigarettes from me, but that doesn't mean we're friends. Maybe observers. With things that pertain to humanity we can learn from each other in teacher/student exchanges of ideas and knowledge, but when that step of friendship is added sometimes it makes the exchange less formal and easier to learn.
Thank you for making me think.
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So we don't really have to worry then...? If insight is going to strike us, then it will do so by way of intuition and only luck (yes yes, chance happening to coincide with our conscious wishes...) can give us the needed experience to gain the insight.
Not that it bothers me much, but for the sake of form I will ad it - I hope you do not take offence at the question of what you ground these Truths on?


Offence none.
Just long hard insight. Like you appear to with, intelligence is outdone by imagination. For one, the real world does not give away it's truthes. They remain unseen to those free of programmed logical intuition.
Concentration and application, one of my mottoes. However there is a point where you realise there is the possibility of motion at a tangent into these unknowns; delusion. Usually at this point, you are applying the theoretical to the theoretical.
Imagination is the key to finding the answer but it is also the light along the path of delusion.
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Wouldn't inanity and elitism be at two ends of intelliegnce and make the perfect place right in the middle according to that philosophy?
Yes, sometimes the closer the friendship the more the suffering. Sometimes that suffering is in being parted by death of the friend. Believing as I do I feel that those loved and lost will be reunited in the afterlife. Not pushing my beliefs onto you, but just expressing the differences.
Not everyone can be a true friend. The old saying that one is silver and the other gold can mean longevity or the intimacy of the relationship between friends. If something happens to shatter a golden friendship it would certainly be more hurtful than a silver one. One never knows who the golden ones will turn out to be. Some of my most golden have turned out to be net friends that I've exchanged more than casual hellos with. And at times, there's been a trial or so, but we've gotten beyond that. Being friends is just something you have to take a chance with sometimes. Being a silver friend to me is quite easy, but being a golden one takes a little more depth. So I suppose I choose mine with a little care and caution, too. That's as it should be.
Everyone has some type of cultural influence even if they're the beginning of that culture so as soon as one other person shares their views it becomes a popularity. I can say I'm independent in my thinking, but another independent thinker shares that value and becomes part of that popularity called independent thinking.
Spectralizing I imagine to be prismatic. Is that the effect you were meaning with that word? If that's the case I'd love to be that way. I think I am when I write verses and songs because of the breadth of scope in which I try to write. If you have a different meaning for that, please explain.
Your last statement is true to a certain degree. The only way for one to learn is to put thoughts into one's own head and be able to utilize them. I can learn from anyone. I can learn how to climb a tree from a monkey and it can learn to smoke cigarettes from me, but that doesn't mean we're friends. Maybe observers. With things that pertain to humanity we can learn from each other in teacher/student exchanges of ideas and knowledge, but when that step of friendship is added sometimes it makes the exchange less formal and easier to learn.
Thank you for making me think.


Don't think like that. Search not for solace within others. You will create a circle which must be maintained to maintain the existence of you and the others. Embrace others but realise that no matter how close you get, there is still distance between you and the others. Something I learned off the poster that introduced me to Zen. A man atop a rock looks across the rock to another upon which there is a tree: the Tree of Enlightenment. No matter, physics tells us, how close we get to the tree, even when touching it, there is still distance. There is a thread called Said Of Zen I started somewhere a bit ago, go read for details.

Very good at recognising cultural influence, why Buddhism is a psychic black hole. It is spawned of the thought of the Aryans. My next prose I originally wrote for my Philosophy teacher I'll be submitting soon. I'm teaching her!

Spectrums we build and climb. Spectrums then we fall to the bottom of and suffer because of our arses feel something under them and because the bones of that region are broken.

Always remember, I smile despite the organic resistance to my laterality. This resistance is doubt. It fears destruction of the system it has built. Do not relinquish the body, invite into the lateral. Something I still have to learn.

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Well, the first part of what you said can also pertain to the johari window idea which has nothing to do with religion. Which is sharing of ideas and values with self and with others. Sometimes something isn't even thought of or the reaction isn't noticed until the self realises it or someone else does whether it's a repeated experience or a new one.
I'd think that one's own position would be to vary from the rock to the tree all during one's life depending on each situation. Sometimes another on the rock can be helped by the one on the tree if the tree dweller allows that to happen and doesn't just sit there. They may just watch as the other falls on their face or they might contribute something they learned when they did for someone else to benefit from thus getting them to the tree also.
If you do it solitarily you'd have to climb down or fall off the rock and then hope for recovery or strength to climb up the tree. If one does it alone without the thought of anyone else they would probably not survive as well if at all since I would think there would be no age limits on it. Why bother to have educators, doctors, etc. if it's to be like that? It would just be a survival of the school of hard knocks which would be chaotic.
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Well, the first part of what you said can also pertain to the johari window idea which has nothing to do with religion. Which is sharing of ideas and values with self and with others. Sometimes something isn't even thought of or the reaction isn't noticed until the self realises it or someone else does whether it's a repeated experience or a new one.
I'd think that one's own position would be to vary from the rock to the tree all during one's life depending on each situation. Sometimes another on the rock can be helped by the one on the tree if the tree dweller allows that to happen and doesn't just sit there. They may just watch as the other falls on their face or they might contribute something they learned when they did for someone else to benefit from thus getting them to the tree also.
If you do it solitarily you'd have to climb down or fall off the rock and then hope for recovery or strength to climb up the tree. If one does it alone without the thought of anyone else they would probably not survive as well if at all since I would think there would be no age limits on it. Why bother to have educators, doctors, etc. if it's to be like that? It would just be a survival of the school of hard knocks which would be chaotic.


Shakyamuni could testify against. We only suffer because we care and get undesired response from things we want a particular thing from. That is the hard truth. Do not try to euphemise or deny because you cannot face it. We are locked into instincts and they want a lot. We are their only way to respond. Since I've denied most of the urges of instinct I have been happier. I have a hereditary temper and I have learned to control it to the absolute. It must be realised that we are the final masters of everything that happens that we decide to do. I do things for my own reasons. Educators and doctors are deluded. Although to people like me, they have a purpose beyond their own superficial beliefs of it. Why do you think you find we are so few in our depths of thought?
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