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Old 2005-10-17, 12:48
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I bomb mine all the time. Never out of tune. One of my RG's trems was offset badly. Couldn't get that thing to level out no matter how I adjusted the set screws, so I popped a spring out. Flush as a motherfucker now, perfect tune.

Opethfan: saddle? end of the neck where it joins the headstock.

That's the nut, the saddle is where the string meets the bridge, it's the metal piece with the groove for the string.
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Old 2005-10-17, 13:43
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so I popped a spring out. Flush as a motherfucker now, perfect tune.




so how many springs do you have in there... and what gauge strings, i'll do anything to shave some time off restringing
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I got three in there now.

setup like this \|/ with 10's on it
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Old 2005-10-17, 14:51
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How far away is your 'standard' tuning? If your going from E/Eb to drop C, except it to be like new strings and lose tune untill the slack can dispersed. Standard D to drop C, would just be the top string, and would take a few re-tunings to differentiate the slack.


I usually have the standard e-tuning; though more and more of Drop C lately. Do I understand you correctly that it will right itself with time and stubborness?
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Old 2005-10-17, 16:15
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For a good bridge/tremolo use a kahler, they stay in tune well and the fine tuners allow a lot of range for tuning.
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Old 2005-10-17, 16:45
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Alright, i want to start playing around with my tremelo.

Yes, its a lisenced floyd rose and it goes uber outta tune if i do anything else but vibratos with it.


Is the base of your tremelo set off the body? If so, that might be the problem. Even though you have the advantage of getting a higher or lower pitch with the tremelo, it still almost never sets back into place right. I don't know maybe it's just me but thats my experiance with that. Also, I've heard something about airbags instead of springs. Supposudly there supposed to set the bridge back in place almost exactly every time.
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Old 2005-10-17, 18:44
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yo guys, my resident housemaster dude just gave me a guitar, and i have no idea what it is or how to track it down or anything.

Its a black fender copy. so we have 3 single coils.

It looks like 2 of the tuners have been replaced... because theres different ones on the b and low E string... and the replaced ones are fairly good too.

The headstock says Vantage... seems to be one piece with the neck. And the fretboard has a wierd layout, its rosewood with center dots on frets 3, 5,7 and 9, and offset dots on 12, 15, 17, 19, 21.

I cannot find a serial number anywhere. The bolton plate is blank. The whammy bar cover is not recessed.

Anybody know anything? I want to get a price on this before i sell it.
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So how does this thing work... the whammy bar is pushed towards the body and the bridge is pushed downwards along with the strings? I still don't understand how a trem works...

The Ibanez I may be buying has a locking trem, not an OFR or anything but it looks reliable. I hear Ibanez's trems hold tunings very well. It's going to be my first trem guitar, so I have not much of a clue how to use it, so I'm buying mainly because I need a 2nd and this guitar is cheap(used).
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The headstock says Vantage... seems to be one piece with the neck. And the fretboard has a wierd layout, its rosewood with center dots on frets 3, 5,7 and 9, and offset dots on 12, 15, 17, 19, 21.


Vantage is an old Japaneese or Chineese company cant remember which one. They are fairly good guitars. When you see a vantage sold, however, its usually under one hundered bucks. i dont know why. If memory serves correctly, the company is now called samick. My friend owns a vantage les paul style guitar. its not bad but it definetly could be a lot better.
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Old 2005-10-17, 23:11
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So how does this thing work... the whammy bar is pushed towards the body and the bridge is pushed downwards along with the strings? I still don't understand how a trem works...

The Ibanez I may be buying has a locking trem, not an OFR or anything but it looks reliable. I hear Ibanez's trems hold tunings very well. It's going to be my first trem guitar, so I have not much of a clue how to use it, so I'm buying mainly because I need a 2nd and this guitar is cheap(used).



A trem works like this..

<--------tension of strings
(tremolo goes here) [equal tension from strings and springs create flushed tremolo]
<--------force of springs

Goal is to get the force of the springs to match the tension of the strings, when in tune.
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I got three in there now.

setup like this \|/ with 10's on it


Thats the same as mine... I cant figure out why it does it. The bridge is all even and shit, i get it perfect each time i re-string. eh fucked if i know
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Old 2005-10-18, 05:43
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this is giving me a headache trying to follow the posts.

sounds like that guitar is a beginner guitar, and if its had tuners replaced, youll probably get less for it. i dunno keep it instead.

floyd roses, as do all tremelos, work by tightening or loosening the string. the springs are there to counteract the tension. different ways to put the springs on, ie /|\ or ||| or whatever the fuck, its just different ways of displacing the balance. /|\ will be a more even diffused tension, where as ||| will be prone to local differences.
inside the back of your RG or similar, youll see the springs, with one end attached to the block, and the other end attached to a plate, which is held inplace by two screws. turning these screws by only like 1/4 turn, will make your bridge raise or lower its angle. do 'em little by little and do 'em both the same. once you got the angle right, then you need to get the height right. theres a little allen key hole in the posts, where the trem pivots(the only actual contact with the guitar), turning these will raise or lower the bridge.
while your doing that, make sure you remember two things,
1. every time you make any adjustment, however small, your guitar will go out of tune, therefore, the strings will be the wrong tension. retune everytime you adjust anything.
2. theres a bloke in your local guitar shop who will do it for you for pretty cheap.

to the bloke whose strings go out of tune, make sure your strings are completely worn in before you tighten the nut, and then make sure its perfect in tune and fairly tight on the nut. obviously you should make sure its tight at the other end (saddle).
if it still goes out of tune, then either your trem setup is fucked, or your buying shit strings.
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Old 2005-10-20, 02:39
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How is a f-spaced pickup different from a normal pickup? I think I once heard it was something to do with the way fender spaced their pickup points according to strings. Can someone briefly explain f-spacing? Also are Ibanez RG guitar pickups f-spaced or normal?
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How is a f-spaced pickup different from a normal pickup? I think I once heard it was something to do with the way fender spaced their pickup points according to strings. Can someone briefly explain f-spacing? Also are Ibanez RG guitar pickups f-spaced or normal?


i think f spacing just makes it spaced to a floyd rose bridge... as opposed to the spacing as a fixed bridge.... i really dont know.



now for my question

If i replaced a normal neck with a baritone neck, would it make it impossible to intonate? Or would it be possible with the same bridge... i just came to think that maybe baritone bridges might have different placement, because of the different neck size, and that could perhaps fuck over all chances of intonation.
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I don't know for sure, but from it looks as if it's just a longer scaled neck and that's it.
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I've got a small question concerning a technique I use; playing very close to the bridge. I've found that it gives a very sharp and concentrated tone that is pretty nice when picking and as an extra effect in solos. I was just wondering, is this called something with music-theory-terminology?
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I don't guess I've ever heard the word. It falls more under dynamics then music theory. Maybe bridge picking?
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Just curious what size of an allen wrench would I need to adjust action if I've got a strat style bridge on my guitar?
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I think it's 1/8" but may vary for different trems.
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