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Old 2007-08-13, 10:37
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I think they should be in the Big four instead of Anthrax but that is just my opinion.What does everyone think of them?
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Old 2007-08-13, 10:43
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They can have Metallica or Megadeth's spot instead.
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Old 2007-08-13, 10:59
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They can have Metallica or Megadeth's spot instead.


Agreed.
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Old 2007-08-13, 12:04
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They could have been one of the Big Four if their album had been released when it was ready in '84 but it's history now.

Anyway, they are a good band. The first album is an essential thrash classic, the next two albums are decent then the 4th is below average. I haven't heard the 5th. Their 2 'comeback' albums are nothing special.
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Old 2007-08-13, 17:38
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They can have Metallica's spot instead.

I agree with this statement now... but if it was 1984, I probably wouldn't
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Old 2007-08-13, 18:04
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I think they should be in the Big four instead of Anthrax but that is just my opinion.What does everyone think of them?


Yeah I agree, I don't even see why Anthrax is on that list. Everything I hear from them is goofy shit, involving some sort of hip-hop.
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Old 2007-08-13, 18:22
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Yeah I agree, I don't even see why Anthrax is on that list. Everything I hear from them is goofy shit, involving some sort of hip-hop.

Try listening to more than 4 songs.


Metallica has always sucked. No matter what year it is.
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Old 2007-08-13, 20:48
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I think there should be a bigger list. It should include Exodus and Sepultura. Early Sepultura was the shit

MTM introduced me to Exodus back when I was in 9th grade! BOUNDED BY BLOOD
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Old 2007-08-13, 20:56
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Try listening to more than 4 songs.


Metallica has always sucked. No matter what year it is.


whether you think they sucked or not, they did help kick off the thrash metal movement, so they deserve that spot in the "big four"

and as for "big four" and whether sepultura shouldve been on it, it was mainly the "big four" american thrash acts
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Old 2007-08-13, 21:25
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Alright, that makes sense to me now.
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Old 2007-08-13, 22:18
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The idea of the big four changing doesn't really make sense. It doesn't refer to best. If that was the case, no one, as exemplified by a few posts already, would be able to agree on what's what.

The big four are what they are because they are just what the name implies: the biggest four. Slayer, Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax simply outsold their peers. You could certainly argue Exodus for the next step down, (alongside Testament, Overkill, and I dunno, Kreator or something) if only due to longevity and new popularity.

The big four won't change. Their space was solidified years ago, and even now, with the exception of Anthrax, they usually play headlining shows at significantly bigger venues than their less successful counterparts. If you want to say that Exodus were more influential, okay, I can see that. If you want to say that they have a better consistency record, sure, I'll get behind that. History rarely changes though. The big four label was created as a tool for music and entertainment media. if you use the big four at all, you'll have to accept who's in it.
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Old 2007-08-13, 22:21
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yah it has nothing to do with best, just the bands that got big quickly in america.
if it was best it would be like: Testament, Kreator, Exodus, and Nuclear Assault
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Old 2007-08-13, 22:42
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Try listening to more than 4 songs.


Metallica has always sucked. No matter what year it is.


I'll pass, I've heard quite enough of them. Just to be straight, I've probably heard a total of six songs.


Metallica really didn't suck till after the black album.
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Old 2007-08-13, 23:36
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I'll pass, I've heard quite enough of them. Just to be straight, I've probably heard a total of six songs.


I think you're really missing out then. Their first album, "Fist Full of Metal" is really badass.
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Old 2007-08-13, 23:51
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yah it has nothing to do with best, just the bands that got big quickly in america.
if it was best it would be like: Testament, Kreator, Exodus, and Nuclear Assault


totally agree, i would say metallica wasn't horrible though. I mean if im in the mood for catchy thrash then they are one of the first bands that comes to mind (after testament, tourniquet, nocturnus, pestilence, and believer)
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Old 2007-08-14, 04:45
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Some of their old material is prety nice, but they're incredibly overrated. All the material they've put out in the past few years sucked balls too.

The REAL best 4 IMO: Sodom, Kreator, Megadeth, Nuclear Assault. Slayer and early Metallica get an honorable mention.

Sepultura has never been a straight up thrash band so they don't really count IMO, but they still rule.
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Old 2007-08-14, 22:53
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This is stupid on several different levels.

#1. The 'Big 4' isn't some official list that is updated and edited periodically for purposes of musical quality, quantity, or consistency.

#2. Those of you contesting are constesting an unofficial list popularized by metal rags and a metal scene that existed nearly 25 years ago.

#3. The 'Big 4' were who they were. They were there because they were the 4 biggest bands of their particular genre. They helped to shape and define that genre.

#4. The name of this list which, I would like to reiterate, is unofficial, is the BIG 4. Not the best 4, not the most prolific 4, not the prettiest, happiest, or horniest 4. The Big 4.

The big 4 aren't necessarily my favorite 80's thrash bands, but I can enjoy select material from all of them. These bands (along with Nasty Savage and Fates Warning) were the bands that got me into thrash when I was a kid, and they did the same for many other kids in the 80's. The gateway bands are naturally going to get more attention that a few bands that might have been more talented, and I don't have a problem with that. Without the gateway bands, who the fuck listens to Tankard, Coroner, or Nuclear Assault?
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Old 2007-08-15, 16:30
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exodus fucking rule. EVERY ALBUM KICKS ASS.
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Old 2007-08-16, 05:31
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