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Old 2005-05-16, 18:56
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Bands with fatal flaws

Has anyone heard an album where everything about it was awesome, but one single part ruines it? For example, I love Cynic's guitar riff style, the drumming, and the bass work, but I WILL NOT listen to them because of those awful vocals. It's just too much. Another example, Cryptopsy. I do listen to them regularly and I like them, but if they had a more traditional styled death metal vocalist, they would probably be in my top 5 death metal bands. But unfortunately, because of Worm's incoherent, inconsistent vocals, they fall well outside my top 10. Anyone else have some examples?
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Old 2005-05-16, 18:58
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cryptopsys hardcore vocalist on both whisper and and then youll beg
watchtower make me cringe, same with spiral architect
quo vadis are really solid except when the vocalist tries to imitate carcass

brett's drunken vocals on stillborn are really bad

massacres guitar solos ruin it

chucks riffs on control denied's album are weak and rehashed
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:02
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some of Decapitated blast beats sound sloppy.
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:02
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I thought that Spiral Architect's vocals sounded a bit like Dickenson, I like them



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Old 2005-05-16, 19:46
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When there is a bad part of an album, I just neglect it, I don't even pay attention to it. It sort of just bypasses my attention, so I don't even really know.
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:49
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:50
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No matter how many time I try to listen to Cynic, the vocals just kill everything. Tdh you are lucky.
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:54
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Dave Mustaine's vocals. Yeah you could get tired of Cynics vocals pretty easily. Machine Head's vocals get on my nerves sometimes. Some of The Crowns riffs are just cheesy.
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:55
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Dragonforce:badass riffs,stupid ass vocals
Cryptopsy:as stated above,the vocals
Overkill: once again the vox
Hate Eternal:constant blast beats
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Old 2005-05-16, 19:59
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No matter how many time I try to listen to Cynic, the vocals just kill everything. Tdh you are lucky.


Oh, dammit, I know what you mean now, I thought you meant an idividual song or something on a cd, or a part of a single song.

Well, the drums on napalm death's album scum just about kill the cd. Also, on morbid angel's brainstorm the guitar is mixed way too low, but otherwise its a fucking awesome cd. I could probably think of more also.
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Old 2005-05-16, 20:30
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I wish more metal bands had the bass higher in the mix. I want to hear it. Really. I don't think there are enough bass heavy bands around today.

I guess the reason is that most of the time the bass is just following the guitar, but I love it when the bass goes against the guitar. Give me some more of that. I wish I had a bass guitar.

By the way, there isn't a single metal band I won't listen to because of the vocals. There are no metal bands whose vox are so bad I can't listen to them for that reason and that reason only. If I can listen to Barnes-era Cannibal Corpse, obviously vox don't mean much to me. I like the vox on Atheist's Elements, though.
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Old 2005-05-16, 20:30
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Has anyone heard an album where everything about it was awesome, but one single part ruines it? For example, I love Cynic's guitar riff style, the drumming, and the bass work, but I WILL NOT listen to them because of those awful vocals. It's just too much. Another example, Cryptopsy. I do listen to them regularly and I like them, but if they had a more traditional styled death metal vocalist, they would probably be in my top 5 death metal bands. But unfortunately, because of Worm's incoherent, inconsistent vocals, they fall well outside my top 10. Anyone else have some examples?


I know of dozens of great bands ruined by horrid vocals......in my opinion of course.
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Old 2005-05-16, 22:09
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Kataklysm - too much fucking blast! If I want to hear industrial equipment, I'll go down the road to the overpass construction. Unfortunately, these clowns seem addicted.
Norther - too much pansy screech. Not convincing.
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Old 2005-05-16, 22:16
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A perfect example for me is King Diamond. I love the music, "Them" and "Abigail" kinda has that NWOBHM-Maiden sound w/ great dual lead guitars, but I can't stand his voice.
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Old 2005-05-16, 23:06
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A perfect example for me is King Diamond. I love the music, "Them" and "Abigail" kinda has that NWOBHM-Maiden sound w/ great dual lead guitars, but I can't stand his voice.

Yeah, I used to like his voice (and still do on the first two Mercyful Fate albums), but he generally gets on my nerves now.

These are good bands I stopped listening to ages ago because of the vocalist:

Exodus
Queensryche
Fates Warning


Most shredder bands have the fatal flaw of not having a real rhythm section and crap vocals on top of that which is why I never listen to these guys anymore:

Satriani
Vai
Cacophony
Vinnie Moore
MacAlpine
newer Megadeth (post So far so good so what)
Malmsteen
Savatage


I think there are too many to list...
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I hated those Cynic vocals at first, but now I don't even notice them. The music is too good. Same applies for Lord Worm, except that he always kicked ass. He's different.

Capharnaum - Once again, the vocalist. Why would such a great death metal band employ the services of the Trivium singer? They suck nuts.

Severed Savior - Not a big one, but I don't like the vocals on their 'Brutality Is Law' Album. The ones on 'Forced To Bleed' are fine though.

Hate Eternal - Guitars are repetitive, as are the drums, but that doesn't matter too much in Derek's case.
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Old 2005-05-16, 23:28
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i think its the vocals that make for the biggest flaws throughout bands. in most cases, as long as the guitars and vocals are either good, or decent (according to my standards), i will like a band. they may have boring drums, or bass, but that wont bother me. good drums and complex bass are just more of a bonus for me.

Im not sure if id like immolation otherwise, but i cant stand how the singer ends practically every other word or group of words with "uh". It pisses me off so much, i amlost smashed the cd on the dresser like i did to mortician.

Nokturnal mortum put way to much blast beats on "to the gates of blasphemous fire", and on top of that the drums were too loud anyway. it ruins many parts, imo.

Summoning was way too repetative on Minas Morgul.

Hecate enthroned made the bass drum sound like a cardboard box on Upon promethean shores.

If Sinergy had good vocals, i would love them.

speaking of alexi, sort of, he IS a flaw now, imo.
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Kataklysm - too much fucking blast! If I want to hear industrial equipment, I'll go down the road to the overpass construction. Unfortunately, these clowns seem addicted.


Yep.

Necrodeath - the newer vocalist sounds lame, really.

Sonata Arctica - sometimes the keyboards get really annoying

Evergrey - sometimes the vocalist sounds really lame, and sometimes he sounds cool.
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Gammacide - Singer : takes a ton of intensity out of the band
Vio-lence (I am sorry) - singer : I just...dont really dig his style. Does not flaw the band at all though.
Early Razor albums - Drummer - Takes alot of speed and power away from the riffs
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