because EVERY guitar player should be using a JCM800

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jcm 800's only sound good to me when you crank them.

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even then they lack in gain.

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are you positive about those numbers? i could have sworn the 5150 II was $1,049.00. i dont know though, you could very well be right.

well i'm sure some places have charged that much... but i'm just comparing and old musicians friend catalog with 5150's to a new one with 6505's... not much price difference at all.

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5150's were 939 new and the 5150II was a little over $1000.. the price drop was almost non existent.. Peavey must finally realize that the 5150 will sell no matter what price. And im getting my price from an old Musician's Friend catalog as well.. your catalog retarded

Your right about the tube.. the extra tube is just shared between the lead and rhythm.

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Yeah I was hoping for it to be a little cheaper, considering it came as low as like $700 when they stopped making them, but yeah I know that was cuz they were trying to sell all of 'em.

Just wait a few months, once used 6505's become availible then you will be able to get them cheap, everyone will want the "vintage block letter logo" 5150

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the old ass catalog i have says otherwise

and that's also what the local dealer was selling them at.


i'm glad peavey doesnt overprice their shit as much as other brands... marshall just had a ridiculous price increase... you can now purchase a soldano avenger for less than a jcm 800 REISSUE! oi.. marshall needs to pull their heads out of their asses.

mesa simply wont let their dealers bring the amps below list pricing(if you're a guitar center employee you can buy mesa at cost... ). but at least mesa still makes quality products... marshall is just getting lazy, not inovative.. play a stilleto(mesa's newest line) and then play the mode four(marshall's latest invention) and you'll hear what i mean. the stilleto is great for what is designed to do.. the mode four is only so so...

i'm interested in the new peavey stuff coming out soon... the valve king looks promising. for an obvious roadking ripoff.

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Yeh the Valve King and the Penta look cool.

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The Penta looks especially great.

The extra tube on the 5150II is only used for the rhythm channel. Clean and crunch tones.
Jerry

owned...

my point was the magazine was just trying to make it look like the 5150 II is a step up from the 5150 because it had more gain... when in fact it actually has about the same(a little less). not that it matters anyways.. a stock 5150 with the gain past 6 is practically unusable anyways, and that's still more than enough for insane brutality.

hell i could give a fuck less about number of tubes... separate eq's would be enough to sell me on it. that imo is the 5150's biggest downfall(other than not having a "real clean channel"), shared eq... plus i just prefer the voicing of the 5150 II.. it has more of a "shimmer".

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When you guys talk about it being too much gain past like 6, how brutal do you mean? And why was it designed with so much gain if V.H. designed it, like he wouldn't use all that?

Oh, I was just going by this http://members.aol.com/fjamods/5150II.jpg




Its just gets muddy after that, is becomes a big mess if gain, a 5150 cranked with the gain at 5 is still PLENTY of gain.

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In that picture the first tube the guitar signal sees is the second tube from the right, then if you're using the rhythm channel it goes thru the first tube on the right (the extra tube), and then down to the effects loop tube, PI, then power amp. On the lead channel the signal goes from that second tube to the next 2 tubes to the left, and then the loop, PI, and finally power amp. The lead channel goes thru the same 6 gain stages as the original but it has a few differences to make it brighter with less gain. The rhythm channel goes thru 3 gain stages to give it a more Marshall type rhythm tone with better cleans.
Jerry

hahahahaha... E.V.H. actually using the 5150's??? ahahaha!

eddie has like 10 marshalls and a few racks of shit pumping out his sounds.

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Hey fucker, Peavey said so and they would never, ever lie. You deserve to die .

http://www.lewzworld.com/vanhalen/p...ie5150stack.jpg

haha, what a joke... peavey and e.v.h. is like shadows fall and krank... just an empty chasis used as a prop to please the company that endorses them. with the real amps off or back stage producing the real sounds. though the 5150's are actually good amps, where as krank is a complete joke.

peavey lies alot... go to www.eurotubes.com and look at bob's thing about the fuckers at peavey saying certain mods cannot be done, yada yada...

eddie's real rig

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Buy from Doug, dont waste your time with Bob.

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