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Old 2005-03-16, 06:58
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You've got to barre those 16's with your ring finger. The hard part is sounding the notes and then releasing the barre quick enough so that the next string is muted. Practise slowly - make sure you still retain the 'sweeping' motion of you picking hand - and gradually up the tempo as you get it down cleanly.
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Old 2005-03-16, 15:08
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cunty thats a sweep right? then you dont really bar the two 16 you roll em
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Old 2005-03-16, 15:34
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I don't like doing neck pickup sweeps when I play. I feel like I'm cheating. I'd rather play them with the bridge pickup and have a much a much harder time getting it to sound fluid and smooth. The neck pickup is so unforgiving when t comes to sweeps it forces you to get better because at first all your sweeps sound like shit. And you can flip on the neck pickup and just do retarded shit not even fretting all the notes of an arpeggio and it sounds good, like the guitar player for cattle decapitation.
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Old 2005-03-16, 16:38
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you mean the bridge is unforgiving for sweeps?
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Old 2005-03-16, 16:40
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I don't like doing neck pickup sweeps when I play. I feel like I'm cheating. I'd rather play them with the bridge pickup and have a much a much harder time getting it to sound fluid and smooth. The neck pickup is so unforgiving when t comes to sweeps it forces you to get better because at first all your sweeps sound like shit. And you can flip on the neck pickup and just do retarded shit not even fretting all the notes of an arpeggio and it sounds good, like the guitar player for cattle decapitation.

you can think of it has cheating, other think of it as playing smart
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Old 2005-03-16, 16:43
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Meh deads method makes sense to me
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Old 2005-03-16, 16:49
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yea I can too, cause it really makes you work and truly master the art of sweeping
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I tend to sweep more on the bridge pickup mainly because I'm just too lazy to switch to the neck pickup

anyways, I've noticed Necrophagist do (I'm uncertain, but I think they've used this before) this-
-------------14-17-14------------------------
----------15----------15-------------------
-------14----------------14----------------
----16----------------------16-------------
-17----------------------------17--------
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i sweep on neck and bridge depends on the solo
like some dimmu solos(actualy its 1 ) i dont have time to switch to neck pu. with no boundaries im usualy sweep on the neck pu cuz it makes it sound better and easier cus itst changes positions a lot

just do whatever feels/sounds right/nice to u

this post was lame right
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this post was lame right


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ow okee i always have the impression that my posts are lame, awell nvm im just kinda.. lame or more lik e

okee whatever im gonna stop this shit
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Old 2005-03-16, 19:55
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No way, this post isn't lame at all man. Muhammad and Christian from Necrophagist have truly mastered sweeping. If not, they're pretty damn close. Not only are they fast, they are some of the cleanest sweep pickers I have ever heard. I'm working on sweeping myself once in a while, and I think it'll be a while before I even get close to Necrophagist's sweeps.
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I always play my sweeps lightly palm muting the strings to avoid unwanted noise.

Same here, is that considered cheating?
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That "cheating" thing makes me laugh. Fuck, if it works, I'll do it, end.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CANNIBALCORPSE
I tend to sweep more on the bridge pickup mainly because I'm just too lazy to switch to the neck pickup

anyways, I've noticed Necrophagist do (I'm uncertain, but I think they've used this before) this-
-------------14-17-14------------------------
----------15----------15-------------------
-------14----------------14----------------
----16----------------------16-------------
-17----------------------------17--------
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or something.

That's 13 on the high D, I think.
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Old 2005-03-17, 04:27
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Nah, that's a standard 'C-shape' arpeggio that CC's described, Tim. Since Necrophagist tune to D and often solo in the key of D, the pattern needs to be moved back down to the 12th fret.

If the 14 becomes 13 on the high D then the arpeggio pattern has shifted into a different mode and should be:

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|-------------13-17-13-------------| |----------15----------15----------| |-------14----------------14-------| |----15----------------------15----| |-17----------------------------17-| |----------------------------------|
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Nah, that's a standard 'C-shape' arpeggio that CC's described, Tim. Since Necrophagist tune to D and often solo in the key of D, the pattern needs to be moved back down to the 12th fret.

If the 14 becomes 13 on the high D then the arpeggio pattern has shifted into a different mode and should be:

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|-------------13-17-13-------------| |----------15----------15----------| |-------14----------------14-------| |----15----------------------15----| |-17----------------------------17-| |----------------------------------|

Yeah, that's the arpeggio I was thinking of. Fuck, I can't believe I didn't realise that was a C shape, I don't think Necrophagist use it too much.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CANNIBALCORPSE
I've noticed Necrophagist do (I'm uncertain, but I think they've used this before) this-
-------------14-17-14------------------------
----------15----------15-------------------
-------14----------------14----------------
----16----------------------16-------------
-17----------------------------17--------
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or something.

thats a major sweep if im right
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Old 2005-03-17, 11:50
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Necrophagist uses, above all, tons of diminished arpeggios... when you hear their music it's blatant.
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Old 2005-03-17, 16:31
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but then there is the whole arguement about dimished stuff actually being arpegios or not

i beleive technicaly they are known is a Symtrical (sp) scale (i think at least)

since the scale just generates its self every 3 frets
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