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Old 2005-02-04, 17:27
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Need Help With My New Floyd Rose.........

I just got a floyd rose guitar and im already having troubles. Iv just changed the string guage to ZW 60. - 10. and what seems to have happen when i look down the neck from the bridge the strings are gradually being pulled up as they come down to the bridge. I have also noticed that the action has been raised alot and im assuming its due to this, its also strange that even though the action has been raised quite alot theres still a bit of buzzing in the top string. So can anyone tell me what i should do? i took it to the guitar shop and they did n't know, oh and i also put a 4th spring on the bass side if that helps.
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Old 2005-02-04, 17:38
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Is the bridge parralel to the body?
Did you adjust the truss rod at all when setting up the guitar?
My guess is the tension from the thicker strings ( I'm assuming you had much thinner strings on there before) is causing the neck to bow. check the if the neck is bowing. If it is, then you'll need to tighten the tross rod. That should even the weird action up.
If this is not the case, then you'll need to give us more information.
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Old 2005-02-04, 17:43
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the bridge is slighty above the body, about 5 mm (the highest point)
I did adjust the truss rod a bit and it did n't really change anything
and i dont think the neck is bowing
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Old 2005-02-04, 17:56
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You must not know how to check.
push down on the highest fret on the 6th string with your right hand. then push down on the 1st fret on the 6th string with you left hand. The height from the string to the frets should be very much, if it seems to high then its probably bowing.

and, did you just buy a floyd rose equiped guitar or did you just install a floyd on a guitar that didnt previously have one?

also, the bridge might just be too high! that may very well be the case.
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Old 2005-02-04, 18:20
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Adjust the truss rod, add more springs.. and raise the bridge. Might need a slight neck shim aswell.
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Old 2005-02-04, 19:28
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Adjust the truss rod, add more springs.. and raise the bridge. Might need a slight neck shim aswell.

If this is a new guitar, and it needs a neck shim then the guitar company really fucked up.
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Old 2005-02-04, 19:34
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Ok, I put my finger on the 24th fret and one on the 1st fret, is that what you meant? well anyway its not high at all about 1 - 2 mm. I got this guitar already equipped with a floyd.
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Old 2005-02-04, 19:42
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I'd make the bridge is parralel to the body
adjust the height of the bridge
tighten the truss rod a little bit.

If that doesnt do it, then I'd think the neck must have to be shimmed.

And what model guitar, and is it new?
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Old 2005-02-04, 20:00
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It's a Jackson KE1 and its not new but everything was in perfect condition prior to this i made sure of it.
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Old 2005-02-04, 21:04
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So if everything was fine prior to this, I dont think it will need to be shimmed.
I'd take it to a music store to get it set up. If you know a luthier, then thats better because I never trust taking my guitar to a music store to get something fixed.
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Old 2005-02-04, 21:14
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You need to get the bridge professionally set up. You can't just go changing tunings, string guages, etc. without adjusting the guitar. Floyd Roses cannot be fucked with without first getting it set up to allow for the changes.
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Old 2005-02-04, 22:47
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No, it dosent need to be set up professionally, he has the internet... he has infinite knowledge.
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Old 2005-02-05, 00:49
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This is why I don't like Floyds. You took it to the repair shop and they said that there was nothing wrong with it? What lazy fucks. If you change the gauge of strings on any floating bridge it needs to be reset-up in order to use the new gauge correctly. This can be done by yourself if you have a carful eye, ear, and knowledge. If it is your first time then be extra careful and maybe find someone to help walk you through it. Floating bridges work by some ancient Voo Doo magic, so have some chicken bones and a shamen priest near by too. This is a KE-1 so I know it is a nice guitar. It should set-up nice and stable, so don't fuck it up and ruin the guitar. It is neck-thou so once the neck is damaged then it is game over.
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Old 2005-02-05, 02:02
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I adjusted the bridge to be parralell to the body but it did nothing to contribute to the real problem (strings gradually pulling up) so im going to put an extra spring in the treble side (it already has an extra one on the bass side) and get the truss rod adjusted a bit more but ill take it to the music shop because i have heard that you can snap the neck if you tighten it too much. That's all i can really think of doing with it, tell me if you have anymore suggestions
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Old 2005-02-05, 03:07
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Make those lazy bastards fix the problem. They can do it so don't let them bullshit you.
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Old 2005-02-05, 22:27
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No, it dosent need to be set up professionally, he has the internet... he has infinite knowledge.


No matter how many times you tell me the internet can teach you to do such things, I will never agree that doing it yourself (unless you've been taught by someone) is the right thing.
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Old 2005-02-05, 22:30
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It isent fucking rocket science.. Im sure he can use a screwdriver just fine without his mommies help.
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Old 2005-02-05, 22:34
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Pfft, yeah, 70% of all people who own Floyd's probably don't know shit about how to use them. They are more trouble than they are worth.
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Old 2005-02-05, 22:41
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BLS thats to much work.

All youi really need is to tighten the springs in the back so it pulls more tension on teh strings, thus evening out the bridge. You may also need to make action adjustments (the two allen wrench screws on eitehr side of the bridge) then you will need to make slight truss rod adjustments. The neck shoudl slightly bow in the shape of a U.
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