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Old 2005-01-27, 00:58
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Old 2005-01-27, 07:51
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MoP is far and away more sophisticated and technical than reign in blood. reign has brute force and speed, but there was a lot more thought and work given to everything about MoP. lars isnt as good as lombrado, but other than that metallica is better than slayer on that album


Eh, Lars does more different shit, but Lombardo is a faster/more technical drummer when he wants to be. Hanneman and King are way more technical and faster than Hammet, but better, is an opinion.

I'd say Reign, because it brought more new ideas to the metal table than mop.

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Bonded by Blood was '85. I do believe Watchtower's first album, 'Energetic Disassembly', came out in '86. Off the top of my head, I can think of a few classic thrash albums that came out in '86-

Kreator- Pleasure to Kill

AHA! Kreator, Exodus, and Watchtower was as innovative if not more than Metallica. Sorry Trans. Everyone thinks Metallica was so influential just because everyone and their grandma bought the album... and a fraction of the people bought Kreator, and a fraction of THAT bought Watchtower.
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Master of Puppets,i personally like South of Heaven better than Reign in Blood
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Master of Puppets,i personally like South of Heaven better than Reign in Blood

hah, thats a pretty funny joke
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Old 2005-01-27, 10:57
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South of heaven was a good album but i dont know what Slayer had in their minds when they made that album. They must have wanted to try something different. Gladly it didnt turn out like Metallicas aproch of different.
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Eh, Lars does more different shit, but Lombardo is a faster/more technical drummer when he wants to be. Hanneman and King are way more technical and faster than Hammet, but better, is an opinion.

I'd say Reign, because it brought more new ideas to the metal table than mop.


AHA! Kreator, Exodus, and Watchtower was as innovative if not more than Metallica. Sorry Trans. Everyone thinks Metallica was so influential just because everyone and their grandma bought the album... and a fraction of the people bought Kreator, and a fraction of THAT bought Watchtower.


Watchtower was more innovative than Exodus, Kreator, Metallica, and Slayer put together. They were obviously influenced by another innovative band, my dear old Rush.

BTW, everyone making fun of the guy who likes South of Heaven better than Reign, maybe that's a little weird, but South of Heaven wasn't the awful album you lot are making it out to be. There were many good songs on it, it's one of my favorite thrash albums. I'd almost be tempted to throw profanity at you losers for underrating it so badly, but I'm afraid I'll have to save my energy for the next time one of you jerk-offs mention how 'awful' Divine Intervention was and how Slayer sold out after Dave left.
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Old 2005-01-27, 11:49
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pleasure to kill was far and away head of its time. 1984... that was some heavy and evil stuff. predates most sodom too, doesnt it?

as for watchtower, they sound nothing like metallica OR slayer. i dont really know what theyre plan was when they started making music, but it definitely started many bands on the path to technical metal.
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Old 2005-01-27, 12:14
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pleasure to kill was far and away head of its time. 1984... that was some heavy and evil stuff. predates most sodom too, doesnt it?

as for watchtower, they sound nothing like metallica OR slayer. i dont really know what theyre plan was when they started making music, but it definitely started many bands on the path to technical metal.


Pleasure to Kill wasn't ahead of it's time, it came out in 1986. There was plenty of other similar stuff that year. Hell Awaits and Seven Churches may have been slightly ahead of their times in 1985. Energetic Disassembly was light years ahead of it's time, Watchtower's two albums have pretty much started a whole new genre focused on technicality.
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MoP is far and away more sophisticated and technical than reign in blood. reign has brute force and speed, but there was a lot more thought and work given to everything about MoP. lars isnt as good as lombrado, but other than that metallica is better than slayer on that album


i gota say man, I respet your opinion on musicality and stuff. But really when it comes down to I don't give two shits about how tallented a band is if there shit gives me that feeling that im sure all of you have felt with music you love. And i love MoP and i love RiB, but I gota say pound-for-pound RiB has more headbanging killer "FUCK YEA!" moments. I dont' give a shit if they can or can't play arpegiated solos for 10 min at 29038429384 notes per second, I care if they fuckin destroy.

But I know thats just my opinion, and im not flaming you or anything...so right on to everyones ideas, yay!


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Old 2005-01-27, 18:02
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yep, boils down to personal opinion


chris- i was wrong. thought it was 84..... still, even in 86 its pretty heavy.
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MoP is far and away more sophisticated and technical than reign in blood. reign has brute force and speed, but there was a lot more thought and work given to everything about MoP. lars isnt as good as lombrado, but other than that metallica is better than slayer on that album


Agreed, RIB is overrated, and frankyl.. very boring.

MOP Incorporates alot of musical elements, something Slayer has always failed to do.

Fast riffs and shitty solo's dont please me much.
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Old 2005-01-27, 19:44
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I think MoP.

RIB is good. It is fast, aggressive, etc, but I prefer MoP still. I can get really bored of RIB, and I don't like all the songs on it. Pretty much just Angel of Death and Raining Blood. MoP, to me seems more timeless.
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I think MoP.

RIB is good. It is fast, aggressive, etc, but I prefer MoP still. I can get really bored of RIB, and I don't like all the songs on it. Pretty much just Angel of Death and Raining Blood. MoP, to me seems more timeless.

Agreed. The only song that didn't get boring to me on RIB was Epedemic,that song fucking owns.
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Old 2005-01-28, 08:57
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They are two of my fav albums ever
err Reign In Blood simply because i love Slayer to death!
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Old 2005-01-28, 19:34
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I just realized how much Pantera was influenced by Metallica...
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Well, MOP had alot more influence on the "Metal Scene", but Riegn in Blood is better without question.
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Lyrics are better on reign in blood. More metal today is influenced by metallica...sadly...i wish slayer was more influencual than metallica but that isn't the case. Master of Puppets is more complex than Reign in Blood but Reign in Blood is just brutal has hell it also doesn't loss its direction like Master of Puppets
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