i'm relearning the piano after 20 years with beethoven's moonlight sonata. i've encountered a note printed twice and one is sharp and the other is not. how do i play this? do i play 2 keys? the regular note and the sharp?

can you give a pic of it? are they above each other or side by side?
if above-then yes play both at the same time harmonicaly
if side by side-then play one after the other melodically

__________________

as you can tell, i'm new to this sight, so i'll try to send a picture ...

no, i can't. i can e-mail it to you ...
the notes are the same, let's say a b and a b sharp, side by side. i have so many questions, what does a little "x" to the left a note mean?

if theyre side by side, then play one then the other with the correct timing like
---------------
---------------
----o--#o---------
---------------
---------------
if thats the case play the B then the B#

the "X" next to a note means its double sharped, if you have this then it means to take the original note and add a whole step to it
so if you have a Ax then it really means to play a B , thats the trickery of enharminoc values
any more Q's just ask

__________________

hey guitar demon, i've been wondering this and you just reminded me to ask, what is the point of a double sharped note? why don't they just make it a B instead of Ax?

thank you very much! musicians are so friendly and helpful. i joined a sheet music sharing forum and it doesn't matter if you have anything at all to share! the members e-mail music freely! i feel like i'm entering a whole new world! a world shared by only those who are passionate about music. i love music! (maybe i shouldn't have smoked the whole thing, but life seems so much more exhilirating!)

I think you should smoke some more for me!

because for some instances you need an A value so you would need the double sharp like....

say your in the C# scale and you have a p5 interval
------------------
------------------
------------------
--#o--------------
------------------
--#o--
(^ledger line...)

so you have C# to G#
but now you want to make that an augmented 5, you have to take that G# and raise it another half step AND you have to keep the G note value so you must go up to a Gx

make sence?

__________________

yeah actually it does. haha looks like i'm starting to get the hang of this shit. thanks bro

ok, so what if you have a note, let's say an f that has both the flat and sharp signs in front of them?

have you actually seen that? I have never seen that, and from what i Know its not possable....

you sure it wasnt this?
l
l____
l____l
.......l
.......l

this meens its a natural note, so if you were in the key of Bb and you wanted a natural B (just a normal B) then you would throw that symbol in front of it.

__________________

no, i'm really seeing a flat and a sharp symbol. was beethoven a drinker?

like
#bA???

im at a loss for words, cause they would cancel eachother out and you would be left with just an "A" note...
maybe powersofterror can enlighten us...

__________________

Ahhh, Demon's right there's no such thing as that. If there is a sharp and a flat together- in front of- the same chord, then that sharp and flat are refering to different notes in the chord. For ex., I assume that the flat and the sharp are not on the same line or space?

__________________

they're actually side by side. the one in front is 1/8 note and the second on the same line is a 1/4 and on that same line is a flat and sharp symbol. i can't figure it out!

and hey! does anyone know who does the song in the Landrover LRC commercial?

I still don't get what you're saying about the flat and sharp on the same line. can ya get us a picture or something?

__________________

Damnit, gimme the measure #.

__________________

ok. i think i've figured a way to get you guys a picture. i think it's attached.

Attached Files

double note flat & sharp.zip (33.9 KB, 186 views)

alrighty. now that i got the hang of attachments, here's another ... same note twice w/ a sharp in front of it.

Attached Files

double note sharp.zip (45.6 KB, 163 views)

hmm when i opened it I didnt get a picture..sign up at photobucket then link the image or something

__________________

The pc I'm at won't open your zips because of the lack of WINzip. Post a jpg image. If it is too large, then don't resize it, just change the resolution to smaller bytes...

__________________

There is really no need for them, unless you were playing in a key sig like Db minor - Db Eb Fb Gb Ab Bbb Cb Db, but if you use the proper key sig C# minor there is no issue. I have also seen them when modulating but there is really no need for them if you using the "proper" key sig in the first place.