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death jazz metal best bands
Which bands are the best??????
I only know atheist, but i want more.
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Atheist is the best anyways.
Some Death is pretty jazzy in the drum parts.
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Cynic is okay, if you can handle the production.
Ephel Duath isn't really death metal, but they're fucking crazy. Best jazz/metal combination out there.
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how jazzy are you looking
atheist and cynic are the two that are most blatantly jazz influenced
beyond that look into heavier tech metal bands
for instance gorguts are extremely jazzy but its not very obvious
death gorguts immolation
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Cynic, Atheist, and later Pestilence, in that order. I'd also strongly recommend Watchtower (thrash/jazz) and Dead Horse (thrash/grindcore/jazz).
Here's the exact order I'd have you go in-
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There are other similar bands, but the jazz influence is strongly toned down. Do you like Rush? They're a good band to check to check out if you are into heavy, complicated, jazz-based rock.
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rush isnt metal though, dont get your hopes up. yes is another great prog band
prog and jazz metal arent the same thing, though.if you do happen to like it ive got some more suggestions for you
i forgot all about late pestilence
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The Dillinger Escape Plan have some jazz elements.
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rush isnt metal though, dont get your hopes up. yes is another great prog band
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The clear answer here is Cynic - Focus. A simply brilliant album, if not a big "out there".
Pestilence is okay, but after listening to Cynic and most Atheist (save Elements), you'll feel cheated.
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I never heard anything from Atheist. I read that they're influenced by Rush. If so, I got to check them out.
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I'd go for Atheist, Cynic and Gorguts.
Edit: Oi Vey! I forgot Demlich and PsyOpus.
I wouldn't exactly say Necrophagist are jazzy, more classical. they are slightly jazzy I guess.
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although they have shit vocals... sawtooth grin might work well as jazz core.
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The clear answer here is Cynic - Focus. A simply brilliant album, if not a big "out there".
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I'm not sure why you left out Elements. In my opinion it's their best album, and it's certainly the most jazz influenced one. BTW, I really have a feeling the person who started this post would probably like Yattering. There's not much jazz to them, but they are good technical death metal laden with the same chaotic time changes you'd hear from jazz based metal bands like Watchtower or Atheist.
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dude, yattering is the shit. Zabek is a madman behind the kit, and he session drums for alot of jazz bands like time yeung and derek roddy do too.
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Oh my fucking god!! about time someone agreed with me about Zabek! My favourite drummer for sure.
Edit: Go buy the DVD. Some of the best $50 I ever spent.
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I think either Yeung or Dave Culross are my favorite, but zabek is definetely up there.
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ive seen the panic in the sea of blood video, thats good enough for me.
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While that is a great video, the DVD lets you see all the crazy cymbal shit he does. And he makes it look ridiculously easy, half the time he's pulling funny faces at the camera.
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yeah, but im not too big on watching bands play unless its live.
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Gordian Knot are very jazzy but they're not death metal.
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What about Cephalic Carnage? Best damn Rocky Mountain Hydrogrind band out there.
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theyre the only hydrogrind band! Suffocations Peirced from within is pretty jazzy at times.
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Reinart is the man! Although Death is my favorite band ever, and Reinart is probably another one of my favorites, i still think yeung beats them all as to my aural pleasure.
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I agree with Chris when he says that the thread starter will probably like Yattering.
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But pretty much everyone ive run into who likes death metal likes yettering... same can be said for decapitated too.
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Really? It seems to me like only some of us know about Yattering. But I can't remember someone not liking them once they've heard them, and with good reason.
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shit, everyone ive showed them to liked em is what i meant.
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Farmakon does funk breakdowns that sound pretty jazzy at times
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I was thinking of Farmakon, but their not really a death band. They're probably more thrash-jazz than death-jazz but they're worth a spin none-the-less.
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What about Control Denied......think they are/were pretty jazzy
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Jazzy metal
I'm surprised no one has said the basics: Acrimonia (Dreams, best jazz metal instrumental ever in my opinion), Esicastic (very much like cynic), Alarum, Cause for Effect (grind jazz, but actual truer to jazz, not the stuff that people call jazz because it is technical. If you want to call technical death metal "jazz", I can name 50 bands from my cd collection at least. Slob on my transmutational knob you degenerates), Mourning Sign, Vuvr, and if you like jazzy stuff just listen to Jaco Pastorius, Bootsy Collins, Marcus Miller, Victor Wooten, Aghora, or anything like that. A horrible wanna be jazz grind band is Nyia. Don't ever listen to them please. I wasted $5.99 on Heads Held High and I would have rather purchased a japanese bondage tea garden video than listened to that bullshit. Nyia and Peter North should do a porno.
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Gordian Knot, they are awesome but they are not death metal. Kind of like prog/jazz metal. Spastic Ink is also a good one, songs like Mosquito Brain Surgery have some great jazz parts. Also check out Pestilence like everyone else said, especially the album "Spheres," some great bass work from Jeroen Paul Thesseling. And of course Cynic and Atheist.
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Gordian Knot, they are awesome but they are not death metal. Kind of like prog/jazz metal. Spastic Ink is also a good one, songs like Mosquito Brain Surgery have some great jazz parts. Also check out Pestilence like everyone else said, especially the album "Spheres," some great bass work from Jeroen Paul Thesseling. And of course Cynic and Atheist.
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Martyr are hands down one of the most amazing bands out there, and they're jazz influences are quite evident. Mostly, that's because both Dan and Francois took jazz guitar and jazz bass lessons as kids. When they finally discovered the world of metal, they said, "Let's combine these!!!" and Martyr was born...a great day in the world of metal
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Ooooh: Coprofago.
Very cool.
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I rescue this thread, because COPROFAGO has a new CD now.
I think is better than the last one.
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2005-10-26, 17:43
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Sleep terror?
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2005-10-26, 19:15
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Ooooh: Coprofago.
Very cool.
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Yeah I totally agree, awesome metal/jazz influenced band from chile, heard about them off uraniummusic.com |
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2005-10-26, 20:53
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How no one can even mention the almighty Exit-13 is beyond me. Also:
Death's Head Quartet
Pain Killer
Naked City
and someone mentioned Cause For Effect. They are fucking genius.
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2005-10-26, 22:27
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Sleep terror?
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No. I don't think they are at all Jazz. Luke says the Jazz in Sleep Terror is "free" styled jazz, which just mean, look at me, I have a clean channle and can play 7th chords behind clean runs.
Martyr is the greatest band ever. Dan Mongrain is currently in his 3rd year of studying Jazz interpretation at college.
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2005-10-27, 06:39
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into the moat is jazz influenced but they are not 100% deathmetal
Sleep terror is jazz influenced in my book
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2005-10-27, 12:14
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You gamma-minus fucktards
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Fuck. I haven't heard of half of these bands. Methinks it's Amazon time.
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2005-10-27, 19:11
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The clear answer here is Cynic - Focus. A simply brilliant album, if not a big "out there".
Pestilence is okay, but after listening to Cynic and most Atheist (save Elements), you'll feel cheated.
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2005-10-27, 20:45
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slack as fuck
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I never heard anything from Atheist. I read that they're influenced by Rush. If so, I got to check them out.
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i wouldnt go as far as saying they're rush influenced but they are amazing, really worth the listen.
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2005-10-27, 21:30
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I hear Rush in Atheist, especially with the way pentatonics are used.
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2005-10-29, 12:42
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Take pity.
Please don't get freaked out by what I'm about to ask for; I'd like to know if anyone could point out a easy place to download some songs of these bands you have been mentioning (a metal hub or ftp would be amazing)?
I assume that most of you are zealous fans and don't appreciate me trying to ripp off your favourite artists. I, however, feel my plea is justified because (as my extra "u" used above may indicate) I am not from your country. This being, I just can't afford to start showering Amazon or the likes with my South African Rands for music I've never heard on the off chance that the imported cd actually gets to me.
So please help me out here, and let me (1 of at max 500 real fucking metalheads in this country) spread our gospel to a savage nation of people who's idea of metal is disturbed or to some even (and I am sorry to taint your fine forumn with such filth) linkin park.
You owe it to humanity!
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2005-10-29, 19:14
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Originally Posted by LucidDreamer
Please don't get freaked out by what I'm about to ask for; I'd like to know if anyone could point out a easy place to download some songs of these bands you have been mentioning (a metal hub or ftp would be amazing)?
I assume that most of you are zealous fans and don't appreciate me trying to ripp off your favourite artists. I, however, feel my plea is justified because (as my extra "u" used above may indicate) I am not from your country. This being, I just can't afford to start showering Amazon or the likes with my South African Rands for music I've never heard on the off chance that the imported cd actually gets to me.
So please help me out here, and let me (1 of at max 500 real fucking metalheads in this country) spread our gospel to a savage nation of people who's idea of metal is disturbed or to some even (and I am sorry to taint your fine forumn with such filth) linkin park.
You owe it to humanity!
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2005-11-03, 16:13
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Originally Posted by LucidDreamer
Please don't get freaked out by what I'm about to ask for; I'd like to know if anyone could point out a easy place to download some songs of these bands you have been mentioning (a metal hub or ftp would be amazing)?
I assume that most of you are zealous fans and don't appreciate me trying to ripp off your favourite artists. I, however, feel my plea is justified because (as my extra "u" used above may indicate) I am not from your country. This being, I just can't afford to start showering Amazon or the likes with my South African Rands for music I've never heard on the off chance that the imported cd actually gets to me.
So please help me out here, and let me (1 of at max 500 real fucking metalheads in this country) spread our gospel to a savage nation of people who's idea of metal is disturbed or to some even (and I am sorry to taint your fine forumn with such filth) linkin park.
You owe it to humanity!
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2005-11-03, 19:07
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Originally Posted by LucidDreamer
Please don't get freaked out by what I'm about to ask for; I'd like to know if anyone could point out a easy place to download some songs of these bands you have been mentioning (a metal hub or ftp would be amazing)?
I assume that most of you are zealous fans and don't appreciate me trying to ripp off your favourite artists. I, however, feel my plea is justified because (as my extra "u" used above may indicate) I am not from your country. This being, I just can't afford to start showering Amazon or the likes with my South African Rands for music I've never heard on the off chance that the imported cd actually gets to me.
So please help me out here, and let me (1 of at max 500 real fucking metalheads in this country) spread our gospel to a savage nation of people who's idea of metal is disturbed or to some even (and I am sorry to taint your fine forumn with such filth) linkin park.
You owe it to humanity!
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Hahaha  . Just check out the Album trading thread in chit-chat. Daveygravy has an FTP running. |
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into the moat is jazz influenced but they are not 100% deathmetal
Sleep terror is jazz influenced in my book
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Sleep terror owns my balls!!! I hope they find a vocalist. It would be cool if Matti way was it cuz they're death metal material is very Disgorge like stuff.
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2005-11-05, 00:05
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Just got atheist through soulseek (thanks cunt; quite funny how often i've actually said that), and they shred fucking ass man. You've made a believer out of me. Particularly impressed by the clarity of the percussion. Definitely inspired me to explore this genre properly. Fucking A guys. Also, I generally think smiley's are a little queer, but couldn't help loving this little dude's spirit. 
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nigger, i hate jews, I have a bomb on my chest and I'm going to kill the President of America, nigger, nigger, I rape children, death to america.
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2005-11-08, 03:53
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I strongly reccommend Le Scrawl, they are more grind/jazz but they are incredible..
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