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Old 2004-12-16, 11:43
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it depends on what kinda tone you like. I went for the Powerball because I just loved its distortion more then the mesa. I've compared it to single/dual/triple recto's in a store and I went for the powerball.

ofcourse that's no guarantee for you, just try them out next to eachother. I don't know how much a powerball and a recto are over there, but they're about equally priced here.
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Old 2004-12-16, 15:08
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i think someone else should answer that, you are biased def...very biased
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Old 2004-12-16, 15:24
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like I said, that's no guarantee for him. He has to try them out yourself.

You'de be biased too if you had played the powerball, haha!
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Old 2004-12-16, 17:07
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i think someone else should answer that, you are biased def...very biased

i was actually more suprised at how honest his reply was... i was expecting more more anti mesa...

personally i think they're both fucking awesome...

one thing i fucking hate about mesa, as good as they can sound, it's ten times easier to make them sound shitty... they demand constant tinkering... one huge reason for why anybody would dislike a mesa is if they didn't have enough play time on one...

i suppose that's why i'm more into european and boutique crap, with alot of those amps you can just knock the knobs around at random and always get good tones, kinda like a tube marshall... just plug in and play...
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Old 2004-12-17, 05:16
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hey, you won't hear me knocking on mesa, they're great amps but I don't think they're the greatest, like all 15 year old slipknot fanboys

Mesa's need tweaking, thats for sure, if you try one, take your time or else you won't get a fair impression of it. My powerball isn't exactly plug and play either, it's still damn versatile, it's easy to find a 'good' tone, but it's hard to find 'your' tone, if you get what I'm saying.

Ofcourse, in price comparisson, the mesa and engl would be more fairly matched in america I reckon, over here everything that says mesa is terribly overpriced. Both amps go for high prices used too, they rarely change owner
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Old 2004-12-17, 12:37
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Thanks guys, I'm looking for more throaty distortion, and I really dont care of the quality of the clean channel, as I will probably only use it for one or two songs. Both Recs and Powerballs go for like low 1000's in american$ so that i am not worried about. The fiddling of the knobs I dont mind either.
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Old 2004-12-17, 16:53
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Both Recs and Powerballs go for like low 1000's in american$ so that i am not worried about.

the powerball is close to $2,000 i think rocksolidamps sells them for like $1,850(which is actually a decent price compared to some botique brands) plus shipping... the lowest i've seen a used one go for is like $1,400, and they're very uncommon used...

the dual recto(my favorite of the three) is only like 1,500-1,600 and i've seen them go as low as $800(in bad shape).
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I just realised that although we brits get ripped off big time on guitars we come out fairly well wen it comes to good amps like Engls, second hand marshall jcm's and laneys.
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