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Old 2004-12-14, 13:54
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Engl Thunder?

How good is the Engl thunder, I was looking into a cheaper amp head (well relativelly) By Engl to test out the sound and what not, does that have as much balls as the other Engls or is it utter gayness?
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Old 2004-12-14, 14:05
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Old 2004-12-14, 14:06
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Old 2004-12-14, 14:18
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Great thread! I too have been looking at this one or maybe the Screamer 50 Combo. Then again you could get a Fireball and pair it with a 412 Avatar cab loaded with v30's. The possibilities are endless. I hear so many great things about engl. For those unable to hear or play an engl you can download soundbytes from Rocksolidamps.com.

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Old 2004-12-14, 14:19
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It's pretty good for the money, if you want to hear sound bytes, check out www.rocksolidamps.com the owner of that website is on this forum too, seems like a friendly guy.

a friend of mine (Mr. Kwint on this forum) has the thunder combo and it was pretty badass, basic tube amp with killer distortion. (ofcourse not as versatile as the powerball, savage and blackmore..)

I played the top version too, through a mesa recto cab with an ltd viper loaded with emg 81's, it rocked. so I suggest you try it out for yourself!

ofcourse I'm slightly biased, beeing an two time engl owner
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Old 2004-12-14, 14:20
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Great thread! I too have been looking at this one or maybe the Screamer 50 Combo. Then again you could get a Fireball and pair it with a 412 Avatar cab loaded with v30's. The possibilities are endless. I hear so many great things about engl. For those unable to hear or play an engl you can download soundbytes from Rocksolidamps.com.


agreed, I would save up for a fireball too, because it has a bit more options and sounds a tad more agressive. Still, a screamer has more options then the thunder, but the overall sounds are the same (most people use only 2 channels anyway)

a Savage 60 is another option, but those aren't around outside europe I reckon (or super-rare) I have one of those too and it rocks. Not as much as my Powerball though
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Powerballs are supposed to be the king of amps. I've never even seen one for sale.
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Old 2004-12-14, 14:31
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I've only seen them in a store a couple of times too. it still looks hot as fuck in my room

http://metaltabs.com/forum/attachme...tachmentid=3793

I'de say, in Engl's, the special edition is the only thing that owns it. shame its about 4000 bucks. completely midi and that sorta shit, but too expensive for me and I would be afraid taking it with me to gigs and shit. luckily I have good flightcases for my tops.
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I've only seen them in a store a couple of times too. it still looks hot as fuck in my room

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Old 2004-12-14, 14:40
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Old 2004-12-14, 17:22
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holy shit thanks for that link def!! Im definitally getting an engl as my next head
hey def would you say the powerball sounds better with the engl cab or your marshall cab? if the engl cab is better is it a big difference?
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hey def would you say the powerball sounds better with the engl cab or your marshall cab? if the engl cab is better is it a big difference?


I know you asked for Def but anyway... I've tested the Powerball lots of times with a bunch of cabs (Bogner, 1960, Engl Standard with V60's) at my local store/importer and I must say Engl was supreme. Though it has V60's, so the Vintage cab with V30's could sound just a little better. But there wasn't a major difference, so I think you can just pick any cab you like. Although an Engl cab would look soooo cool... but it means $$$. You'll probably be fine with a 1960.

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oh for god's sake DO NOT use the terms "Engl" and "utter gayness" in the same sentence... Or Def, I, xdislexicx and a bunch of other germantube-junkies will personally crucify you... upside down!!!

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I know you asked for Def but anyway... I've tested the Powerball lots of times with a bunch of cabs (Bogner, 1960, Engl Standard with V60's) at my local store/importer and I must say Engl was supreme. Though it has V60's, so the Vintage cab with V30's could sound just a little better. But there wasn't a major difference, so I think you can just pick any cab you like. Although an Engl cab would look soooo cool... but it means $$$. You'll probably be fine with a 1960.

But I can hear Def's footsteps coming your way...

k, cause i already have a 1960 cab so i was just wondering if it would really be necessary to replace it
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k, cause i already have a 1960 cab so i was just wondering if it would really be necessary to replace it


nope, I think you'd be just fine...
but wait for Def, he knows better than I do!
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I ve played both the screamer and thunder combo's and they rocked. The cleans and distortion were literally to die for. At the moment i'm seein whether theres any savage 60's going around
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nope, I think you'd be just fine...
but wait for Def, he knows better than I do!

well in all the pics i have seen of his rig he has a marshall cab for it
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I ve played both the screamer and thunder combo's and they rocked. The cleans and distortion were literally to die for. At the moment i'm seein whether theres any savage 60's going around


Good luck, if there's one you're really lucky. I got mine from ebay.de, they are on there every now and then and you might get lucky in the auction because they're not that well known (but the savage 60 is just a 60w version of the topmodel savage) it even has tube monitoring with leds in the back, recording outs with volume control and all that shit a fireball/screamer/thunder doesn't have. *theres one on ebay.de right now.

as for cabs, the Engl V30 are superior to the marshall 1960 cab IMO, just like mesa v30 cabs, or most other cabs with v30's. they just sound great.
The V60 cab Engl has is not really special, a marshall does the job just as good with a bit more low end and you can get them used.

I might get a Diezel or Engl v30 cab next year if I've got some money left (gonna be in august or something...)

nicest thing about having a marshall cab is that you can borrow other bands' cabs, since everybody uses marshall I can allways rip a 1960A cab and stack those fuckers up
On another note, most clubs or other gigs have marshall cabs, if you can't bring your own cab, you still have your 'own' sound. we're going on tour to germany with a van but we can't take all our cabs man, just the complete bassrig and one engl cab (of our other guitarist)

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Hey Def, what do you think is a better head, your powerball or a dual/triple rec?? I want one or the other as my next head, probably by the end of next summer.
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