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Old 2004-11-08, 15:34
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Yeah, im actually gonna get a new head soon.

Help me

im hoping for funds of 750 candain dollars
I need a new head
looking for a suffocation/dying fetus tone (think Pierced from suffo, and Destroy the oppostion and stop at nothing for fetus)
im planning on ebaying it, so that means ill need to get it shipped up north here and i dont want to wait awhile


I was thinking Ampeg Vh 140c but they are hard to find
i was thinking Roland Jc 120 with my brutal as hell(brutal=good) distortion pedal but they are kind of costy sometimes

any other suggestions?


anyways i really dont know what im gonna do here....
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Old 2004-11-08, 15:51
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They have some JCM 900's for $350 and up on E-Bay.
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Old 2004-11-08, 15:57
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well i might as well quit death metal if i buy that unless i use my distortion pedal with it
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Old 2004-11-08, 17:22
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crate bv120h... it can pull of those buzzy dying fetus tones easily if you turn up the gain and presence enough... if that's your tone, but i like it for other types of high gain stuff that doesnt include buzzy slop.

maybe a 5150? pretty similar in price, maybe a little more... but the bv has way better cleans and the 5150 wont buzz/fuzz out as much.

the jcm 900 can do brutal with a light boost or o.d. pedal. i'm playing one right now, i just dime it and it sounds plenty brutal.... without a pedal. but having some kind of boost or superhot pickups will push it even more.
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Old 2004-11-08, 17:26
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maybe a 5150? pretty similar in price, maybe a little more... but the bv has way better cleans and the 5150 wont buzz/fuzz out as much.

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id say the 5150 II but thats just me
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Old 2004-11-08, 17:31
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i tried a Bv 120 and it didnt satisfy my need for brutality

XDX go listen to the pierced from within album from suffocation to get an idea what kind of tone i want


maybe a 5150, but some how i dont think they will give me what im looking for plus they are a Queercore amp
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Old 2004-11-08, 17:44
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id say the 5150 II but thats just me

meh, i like the 5150 II better than the 5150 but not for brutality... it just has a brighter tone and separate eq's for the crunch/clean channel and the lead channel.


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i tried a Bv 120 and it didnt satisfy my need for brutality

well, i think it's fine, but if you say otherwise i wont mention it.

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XDX go listen to the pierced from within album from suffocation to get an idea what kind of tone i want


i totally think a 5150 could pull out similar tones... for fuzzier sounds you may want an external eq'ing device...


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maybe a 5150, but some how i dont think they will give me what im looking for plus they are a Queercore amp

recto's are big in the "nu metal" world... yet still do wonderful for death metal and other forms of rock/metal.
the 5150's have a popularity in the hxc scene because they do a good simple heavy sound... good heavy sound for a good heavy band... it's that simple.

i think def was saying something in another thread about dying fetus using a 5150....
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Old 2004-11-08, 17:45
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meh, i like the 5150 II better than the 5150 but not for brutality... it just has a brighter tone and separate eq's for the crunch/clean channel and the lead channel.




thats why i like em better too
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Old 2004-11-08, 20:06
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yeah im gonna get a behringer para EQ

so you listened to that suffo stuff eh?

awesome guitar tone

so you seriously think 5150s can do that eh?
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I'm apparently a retard, but I would say a stock 5150 could not do Suffocation tone well at all.
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Old 2004-11-08, 20:47
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yeah when i saw nueraxis i think i got a pretty good idea of what thier tone is like... pretty warm and cuddly, but also abit buzzy too

my demands are Extreme Brutality, Clairity and volume


another tone is love is ITDS by nile
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They use some marshall amp and Invaders.
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maybe a 5150, but some how i dont think they will give me what im looking for plus they are a Queercore amp


hey now. ill have none of that young man
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Old 2004-11-09, 00:40
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i think the bv can do those tones better than the 5150, but hey...

if you really love nile's tone... proco rat of some kind(there are several versions and i'm not sure which ones nile uses) as a boost into a medium gain marshallish amp like a jcm 800 or 900. if you wanna get real cheap you could get a sovtek mig series head, pretty much jcm 800 clones. but a couple hundred bones cheaper. good amps imo.
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Suffocation tone is easy to achieve..

set Bass to 10
Get an amp with buzzy distortion and little to no clarity
and your done!

Personally i think their tone sucks... really bad but the only cds i have by them are Effigy Of The Forgotten and Pierced from Within
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Effigy tone kind of sucks

PFW tone is Fawking brutal and awesome though
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Dying fetus has never used 5150s.

Suffocation's tone comes alot from the technique that is used. i.e. Heavily dampened and plam musted arpeggios on the low strings.

Your first post made no sense because Suffocation's tone, the tone on Destroy the opposition and the tone on stop at nothing area all totaly different. I think Stop at Nothing has terrible tone, very thin and buzzy, but that might be because Scott Hall engeneered it. Surprsingly they used a Randall tube head with a tube screamer and it still sounded like ass.
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Dying fetus has never used 5150s.

that's what i was thinking, but def said he knew... and i don't know.... so i couldnt say either way.

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Suffocation's tone comes alot from the technique that is used. i.e. Heavily dampened and plam musted arpeggios on the low strings.

i think suffocation has pretty muddy tone... but that's just me.
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Your first post made no sense because Suffocation's tone, the tone on Destroy the opposition and the tone on stop at nothing area all totaly different. I think Stop at Nothing has terrible tone, very thin and buzzy, but that might be because Scott Hall engeneered it. Surprsingly they used a Randall tube head with a tube screamer and it still sounded like ass.

i havent heard a dying fetus cd i actually like the guitar tone alot on... i think on killing on adrenalin they used randalls and peaveys(not 5150's, the other supreme or butcher or something)... but i wouldnt know the facts of their rigs... i just know it's all buzzy... so my first thoughts were if he wanted a buzzy/muddy distortion he could get it from a blue voodoo with dimed presence,lows, and gain....
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Why would you want a buzzy tone in the first place? lol...its no fun to TRY and sound like someone else...because you never will...and it jusst kinda sucks. Check out a bunch of amps and don't get some crap that'll make your playing sound like shit.





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its no fun to TRY and sound like someone else...because you never will...and it jusst kinda sucks.

I dont want the exact same tone of a band, but if I like their tone then I'll probably want to shape my tone around that.

anywho, CONE ZONE TIME!
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