I got their album Synergy about a year ago...I kinda like it at some points...but for the most part...I dont really think of " metal " when I hear them, but their complicated guitar work or whatever kinda reminds me of what dillinger escape plan would do...but I dont like DEP at all, but my question is, I heard their earlier work was black metal and they weren't a christian metal band in their early shit, is that true?

I dont really like this album too much. and I wouldn't go out and buy another of theirs based on what i've heard so far, but if they were black metal before I might reconsider.

The other band that was like that was Anathema, they were black and now they do Damnation-esque stuff.

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bah. they're christian metal I guess.

they don't remind me of DEP at all though, they don't even come close...

bah, you're probably right, i'm talking out of my ass, lol. I can't remember the last time I heard DEP, which was a while ago.

I'm just making sure i'm not lied to again...I made two mistakes in the past listening to some idiot kid...that Nightwish was awesome death metal, and that Into Eternity was new black metal....I think someone was out to fuck me over though, i've learned to only value the opinions of people on this board and I dont go anywhere else for my info.

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They're alright.

lol i dont do christian metal

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because its christian? well thats just stupid.

I mean, if there was any good muslim-metal, I'de probably listen to it too!

christian music imo always sucks

they started out playing music to spread the word of christ, not to make good metal.

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as far as i can remember, Anathema were/are Doom.

I like Extol.

Top Ten Alien: i've said it before but, I'm not too up to date with the genre's of metal...I classify everything either under Death, Gore Thrash Power and Black...which is probably not so effective, but they just get too varied for me....but as best I can guess, their older stuff was somewhere between black and doom....but you're right, probably more doom cause they have a slower more ambient feel.

As far as Extol go..Metal-wise, they are kind weak, I only like two songs on the album I bought, and normally I buy metal cd's which all the songs are awesome. thats one of the main reasons I love metal. I can buy a Korn cd, and maybe like 2 songs, but feel like i've wasted my money, but if I go andbuy something like Dechristianize, then I know every song was worth every penny, and I just sorta dont feel that way about Extol.

but like I said, is their earlier stuff any better? if anyone even knows?

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and how do you know?

maybe they're just a bunch of guys who like making music? ok, so they're christian and decide to take that up in their text. a lot of metalbands do exactly the same with satanism.

jezus, people can be so fucking narrowminded.

Nicely done.

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music is music, when ti comes down to it....I didn't really know they were a christian band until my friend told me, but that didn't really change my mind or anything.
I'm happy that when the singer screams, he sounds like he is a thrash singer, and not one of those nu-metal like....fucking bands....you know, where the boner is singing clean like " Ohhhh my god a girl touched my legggg " and then some linkin park sounding dude comes in and he screams all stupid high pitched-like " I TOUCHED HIS LEGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!11 "

so thats automatic points in my book. Theres just something I can't dig about it. I think its the way the whole thing is put together as a whole, thats probably why im curious if their older stuff is any better, cause they have potential. He at least has a decent clean singing voice.

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yeah,i can. its my money and ill spend it on atheist a hell of a lot faster than on extol

im just saying, christian music always sucks.

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yeah. I'm just saying you're a narrowminded fuckhead

christian music doesnt "always suck", you think it sucks because you dont like the religious overtones, i have heard some pretty fuckin brutal death metal done by christians, does being a christian make them any less talented, does it mean that they cant be just as heavy, FUCK NO. you have to get past the bands religion, because you could pull the same shit with megadeth, mustaine is a christian now, does that mean he will start playing soft rock, i think not.

back on topic, i like extol, i think they have alot of potential. i do remember hearing or reading somewhere that theyre earlier stuff had more of a black metal influence in the vocals, i think.

yeah, i just found it

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I would say im a pretty good judge of metal music, and im farrr from being christian. dont just write extol off as just some bible band. I bought 'undeceived' in 2001, I didnt know anything about them, I just liked the cover, it was very metal! as musicians they are amazing! that album is heavy as fuck, very black metal at parts but much more melodic and technical. I dont care what what they believe in, I care how it sounds...thats all, and the old albums sound awesome. Christians or not, you cant say a band isnt good because of thier beliefs, Inst necrofagist Muslim? So i shouldnt listen to that too?

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Haven't heard this band, but if they're christian metal, they'd have to be as good as Necrophagist before I'd accept them, and even then, I'd be frustrated at the religious overtones. Call me narrow minded, I don't give a fuck in the slightest.

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religious overtones can be annoying, I agree. its about the music and not per sé about the religion. if they overdo it, I don't listen to it either because its just not my thing.

but saying 'christian music allways sucks' is just retarded.

Except alot of metal bands who include Satanism in thier theme aren't even Satanist, they just use it as a theme, Unless it's black metal though....