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Old 2004-10-24, 11:05
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Bogner amps?

A couple of weeks ago I saw Deicide. And one of the bands there (I think it was Cattle Decapitation) was using bogner amps. Ive never heard of them. Could anyone tell me anything about them?
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Old 2004-10-24, 12:37
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Old 2004-10-24, 13:50
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Good amps but i read somewhere that they are $$
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Old 2004-10-24, 14:44
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A couple of weeks ago I saw Deicide. And one of the bands there (I think it was Cattle Decapitation) was using bogner amps. Ive never heard of them. Could anyone tell me anything about them?

yeah josh from cattle uses bogner amps.they are all right amps they are really cheap .you can get a cab for like $277.oo. they have a good sound and tone.
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Old 2004-10-24, 14:46
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Wow... this threads is just filled with false information.

"All right amps" ???

"Really cheap"

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Old 2004-10-24, 15:19
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I really hope you were joking wookie slaughter. The uberschall which is what i assume cattle decap guy uses, because its the only "metal" amp bogner makes, is around 2500-3000$. Vile also uses them, and i wouldnt be surprised if leng tche did to. Its a fucking insane THICK tone with alot of balls and crunch, but be willing to shell out some serious bank.
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Old 2004-10-24, 16:10
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when i read what wookieslaughter wrote, i was shocked, alright?? cheap??? this guuy is dumb, i asked josh and he told me that he payed 2500 for his uberschall head, and 899 a piece for his cabinets. pretty expensicve, but he told me they r worth it. really good stuff. CATTLE DECAPITATION RULES!!!!!
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Old 2004-10-24, 16:47
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yeah josh from cattle uses bogner amps.they are all right amps they are really cheap .you can get a cab for like $277.oo. they have a good sound and tone.

if you werent joking you deserve to be shot.

they arent cheap, don't get your hopes up... they're very expensive, but some of the best amps ever built no matter how you look at it. build quality is impeccable, the material used are top notch... alot of hand building and even some maybe even all point to point wiring(if i'm not mistaken.). the sounds are amazing(for whatever the specific amp is designed for)...
when you have a bogner you have a bogner for life, not only will one NEVER break down or fail you, but they have lifetime warranty that cannot be beat, you can throw it out of your car on the freeway and(if it breaks ) the warranty is there.
the resale on them isnt much less than the new price, a new uberschall(probably the heaviest sounding head ever built btw) goes for about $2,500 u.s.d.
a used one will probably at least be like $2,000.
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Old 2004-10-24, 16:56
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Correct. they're great amps, though they're more for rock then metal IMO, they're not as high-gainy if I'de like them to be, but they DO have great tone. and they're pretty versatile in their range. Over here they're populair with hardrock/rock bands. But I've seen some metal bands use them too, anyhow, they got tone.
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yeah, great amps, i just wish reinhold would make one that had even more gain than the uberschall.
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Old 2004-10-24, 18:17
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Correct. they're great amps, though they're more for rock then metal IMO, they're not as high-gainy if I'de like them to be, but they DO have great tone. and they're pretty versatile in their range. Over here they're populair with hardrock/rock bands. But I've seen some metal bands use them too, anyhow, they got tone.

you must have never played an uberschall... that thing is probably the meanest fucking thing ever... maybe other high end botique-ish amps like
the framus cobra, h&k triamp, vht pittbull, engl savage, rivera knucklehead, and diezel herbert can compare in overall brutal high gain tone..
but imo it rein supreme for the insane brutal tones..
it also has a good clean channel and does great lower gain stuff, but it's niche is in the high gain area.

most bogner stuff is built to do very marshallish sounds, but wth better build quality and more features, plus the whole origional world of bogner tone.
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Old 2004-10-24, 18:28
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I played one last thursday... next time I'm at MP, I'll take pics. It's by far not the meanest thing I ever played, hell a VHT Pitbull, Diezel VH4 and Engl Savage all sounded meaner to me and I compared them ALL to the Bogner that same day, through the same cab and guitar. they didn't have a bogner amp there though, I don't know if that made some difference.

ofcourse a Rivera doesn't sound as mean, netiher does a Soldano or Triamp, they're just way different amps with a different purpose. a knucklehead and triamp are more about tone then brutal-factor.

As far as the marshall tone, I didn't really recognize it, except the nosey tone in the distortion, it didn't cut as agressively as the other amps mentioned above IMO!

played all those amps through a marshall 1960 cab, mesa half-open back cab and an orange cab. with an ESP custom Viper loaded with emg 81/85 set.

Bogner really doesn't cut it for me, but thats an opinion, I just didn't like them much, this was the first uberschall I played, I used a Shiva combo before and I fellt the same about that.
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wish i could get a pittbull, so tight, closed and dry. love that tone.
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Old 2004-10-24, 22:39
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I played one last thursday... next time I'm at MP, I'll take pics. It's by far not the meanest thing I ever played, hell a VHT Pitbull, Diezel VH4 and Engl Savage all sounded meaner to me and I compared them ALL to the Bogner that same day, through the same cab and guitar. they didn't have a bogner amp there though, I don't know if that made some difference.

ofcourse a Rivera doesn't sound as mean, netiher does a Soldano or Triamp, they're just way different amps with a different purpose. a knucklehead and triamp are more about tone then brutal-factor.

As far as the marshall tone, I didn't really recognize it, except the nosey tone in the distortion, it didn't cut as agressively as the other amps mentioned above IMO!

played all those amps through a marshall 1960 cab, mesa half-open back cab and an orange cab. with an ESP custom Viper loaded with emg 81/85 set.

Bogner really doesn't cut it for me, but thats an opinion, I just didn't like them much, this was the first uberschall I played, I used a Shiva combo before and I fellt the same about that.

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Old 2004-10-24, 22:56
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Old 2004-10-25, 04:51
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Old 2004-10-25, 17:09
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*eeeeeeeh* -buzzer sound-

not all expensive amps sound great, I can't stand Orange tops, they're like rock'n'roll amps or something, their cabs are nice though but I can't fucking stand their tops. Maybe if you like british sounding amps like marshalls but meh. Expensive as fuck though.

Diezel VH4's where a nice surprise though... costs losts but are great.
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