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Old 2004-09-18, 06:04
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One of the best albums of CC is Live Cannibalism !
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Old 2004-09-18, 18:31
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Well fuck my arse, I agree.

By the way, there were many death metal bands around before Cannibal Corpse. MANY. Possessed, being first. Bolt Thrower, Pestilence, Autopsy, Asphyx, Death, Celtic Frost, Sepultura (death/thrash), etc. The majority of those bands preceed Cannibal Corpse by a good 5 years - and most had released 2, 3, or even 4+ albums before Cannibal Corpse had even formed. So actually, plenty of bands were playing the music they were. They may be one of the most influential death metal bands ever, but certainly not one of the first.


Yes. Death had 3 albums and countless demos out before CC even had ONE demo. Possessed had at least two to my knowledge.

But CC influenced every death metal act that followed.
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Old 2004-10-02, 11:51
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Didn't Obituary come out before Cannibal Corpse?
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Yes, well, they formed before cannibal Corpse.
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Old 2004-10-02, 12:46
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yeah, obituarys great too. Whyd you revoke all those speaking priveliges CC?
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Old 2004-10-02, 17:28
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Keep in mind, you people talking about when CC formed, that they're from Buffalo, NY. Anyone who's ever been to Buffalo might be aware of the fact that it sucks royally and is not a hotbed for anything. The fact that five talented, death metal-oriented musicians came together and formed a band, a good band, in that artistic climate is absolutely mind-boggling. You could say the same thing for Sepultura, but I don't think they really had much trouble finding each other. Anyway, I'm just saying: it's easier to form band in a place like Florida at the time, where everyone was racing headfirst to deathmetaldom, but Buffalo? That would take some time.

And for Dissection (and no, this is not about the CC comment, as that's a matter of taste): Do you honestly think that Les is the only person to show his skill on the bass? I agree that he's better than Webster, and most bassists of his generation, but that's absolutely nuts. I mean, when DiGorgio toured with Testament he played their guitar solos. If you're having trouble finding good bassists, the band Gov't Mule was kind enough, when their bassist died, to record two albums full up with probably the best bassists living - with the strange exception of Geddy Lee - called The Deep End Vols 1 & 2. If you can't find somebody else to impress you there, well, you're not likely to find somebody. And, of course, Les is invovled. There's actually a companion documentary, called Rising Low, that explains the making of the record, the reason behind it, and does a lot of exploration into bass playing. Good stuff.

And I like Alex Webster.
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Old 2004-11-22, 00:27
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Alex Webster is the most insane bassist in the whole fucking planet. He is my fucking god! Me and Cannibal saw CC and met Alex after a show...we even got pictures with Alex, and Pat's Signature! Anyone who says Alex sucks shall be killed in one of the following ways- burnt alive, executed personally by Alex, or just shot by a CC lover.
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Alex Webster is an AMAZING bass player, but he is not the best. Victor Wooten (already mentioned) is fucking insane. What other bass players do you know of to play the star-spangled banner with just harmonics!!!!! That should speak for itself. Alex is most impressive though because he doesn't use a pick....and because his hands are 3/4 spiders.
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Old 2004-11-22, 17:22
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What CC songs show Alex's best bass work? i'd like to check him out.
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Old 2004-11-28, 18:15
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Alex Webster

Check out the wreched spawn, get the copy with the free dvd and watch the recording of frantic disembowelment (i dare anyone to accuratly do a bass tab for it). alex is more amazing to see then to hear. his bass solos are good but they are not the best, but when you see him play its totaly tits.

And Posessed were around before cc or anyother death band, They were the FIRST death band anb many belive they invented the phrase Death Metal, i sugest and death metaler to buy seven churches. and death came befor cc aswell.

any hoo i shall go before i start to ramble.
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Old 2004-11-28, 22:35
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yea possessed was the first. i have seven churches its no the best album ever but its one of those metal "classic" ablums, if i remember right they had a song on there named death metal so that might be where the prase came from.

i dont think there is a version of the wretches spawn without the dvd, when i saw it thought i was like
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Old 2004-11-29, 02:53
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Don't get too excited over Alex Webster before you get a chance to hear him. He's good, but a lot of people go on about him like he's got Jaco in his pocket blessing his right hand. A lot of it comes from his being basically the only fingerstyle bassist death metal fans know, which is very impressive but doesn't actually make him better than some bassists who use a pick. There's a reason he's more impressive to watch than to listen to: when you listen you aren't forced to see his right hand wiggle away and have to focus on what's being played.

I'm by no means trying to say he's not a very good bassist. I just think there's a tendency to give him too much credit and a consensus to forget that bass playing is more than right-hand technique, which he's got in spades.
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Stefan Fimmers (Necrophagist) plays far more crazy shit than CC on bass and also uses his fingers. Now that guy has right-hand technique.

Nevertheless, go Webster he is quite a champ.
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Oh ive heard/seen Necrophagist, and yeah there bassist is real good, lots of tapping, he usues a 6 string bass, good for them high octaves.
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The whole thing about alex being so good isnt because he has a fast right hand, many many death metal bassists use their fingers. he is good because he is good at all aspects of playing and if you had watched the wreched spawn dvd u would know that.

he slaps and taps like a muther fucker in that dvd, Ok so he's no stu hamm or jaco but they play different music to what he does.

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dude i heard that jaco guy but in the dvd he does talk about learning jazz and other styles to help incorperat into his death metal playing, which is a good thing if you only play and listen to metal 24/7 you will get stale
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The whole thing about alex being so good isnt because he has a fast right hand, many many death metal bassists use their fingers. he is good because he is good at all aspects of playing and if you had watched the wreched spawn dvd u would know that.

he slaps and taps like a muther fucker in that dvd, Ok so he's no stu hamm or jaco but they play different music to what he does.

I've seen that DVD and still stand by anything I said. I wasn't actually comparing him to Stu Hamm or Jaco Pastorius so much as to other death metal bassists, who get very little credit despite being on a similar level.

Like I said, I'm not trying to bag on Alex Webster so much as to make sure the description of him's more balanced, and to point out that there are a lot of other great death metal bassists who just haven't had the exposure, or a Wretched Spawn DVD of their own.
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