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Old 2007-04-19, 18:47
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satanism and these bands

Are any of these following bands actually satanic or is it all for the sake of being "cool" and for record sales?

Cannibal corpse
The Black Dahlia Murder
Behemoth
Morbid Angel
Celtic Frost


I have had arguments with friends over BDM being satanic.I say it is all to be cool and for record sales but they keep citing the song thy horror cosmic b/c it is all about satan ruling the world. Thanks in advance for clearing some stuff up.Also if you are just gonna be a gay smartass dont post!
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Old 2007-04-19, 19:08
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Behemoth and MA seem the most anti-Christian out of the 4, BDM isnt Satanic.
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Old 2007-04-19, 19:11
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cannibal corpse is not satanic you fucking noob
just listen to the lyrics!

btw the reason bands are satanic is
A) it sounds cool
B)they're trying to look cool
C) (the most respectable), real satanism is the simple belief in being your own god and not praising any higher being
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Old 2007-04-19, 19:55
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That is NOT real satanism. That's fucking atheism with a catchy, offensive name that appeals to so many dumb cunts.
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Old 2007-04-19, 20:14
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That is NOT real satanism. That's fucking atheism with a catchy, offensive name that appeals to so many dumb cunts.


You talking about LaVey Satanism?

That type is all about doing stuff for yourself, to feel happy, it has nothing to do with Satan that is in the bible.
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Old 2007-04-19, 20:26
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Satanism is stupid. If satanists are so against organized religion, then why name your whole belief system after a figure of organized religion. Who needs any set of codes to live under(whether it be lavey's or allister's or jesus')If you are your own god, your "religion" should be callled _____________ism.
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Old 2007-04-19, 20:31
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Satanism is stupid. If satanists are so against organized religion, then why name your whole belief system after a figure of organized religion. Who needs any set of codes to live under(whether it be lavey's or allister's or jesus')If you are your own god, your "religion" should be callled _____________ism.
(your name here)


Anton LaVey himself stated that he calls his religion "Satanism" as a sort of joke in a way, because of how so many christians will call people "satanic" because they like metal music, they're atheist, or whatever the case may be. It's pretty much like saying "y'all wanna call me satanic? Alright then, you got it."

And to the threadstarter, why does it matter if they're satanic?
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Old 2007-04-19, 20:33
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I said Cannibl;a Corpse b/c i heard they members or at least one of them are christians/catholics.Is this true?
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You talking about LaVey Satanism?

That type is all about doing stuff for yourself, to feel happy, it has nothing to do with Satan that is in the bible.

I'm talking about majority of people who call themselves satanists.
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Are any of these following bands actually satanic or is it all for the sake of being "cool" and for record sales?

Cannibal corpse
The Black Dahlia Murder
Behemoth
Morbid Angel
Celtic Frost


I have had arguments with friends over BDM being satanic.I say it is all to be cool and for record sales but they keep citing the song thy horror cosmic b/c it is all about satan ruling the world. Thanks in advance for clearing some stuff up.Also if you are just gonna be a gay smartass dont post!

Your friends are stupid. BDM isn't anywhere close to being satanic. A band overall isn't satanic if they have just one or 2 songs with it as the theme. Cannibal Corpse isn't really tied to any religious theme, I don't believe; just blunt gore imagery.

I'm not familiar with Behemoth, Morbid Angel, or Celtic Frost enough, though.
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I said Cannibl;a Corpse b/c i heard they members or at least one of them are christians/catholics.Is this true?


I checked wikipedia, and it says that the drummer Paul Mazurkiewicz is a jew. Perhaps that's the one they were thinking of?

Also, you can never really tell what bands are purely satanic just by the lyrics and imagery and whatnot. Many bands who are accused of being satanist, such as Slayer and Deicide, are not. The singer/bassist for Slayer is a roman catholic, and so is one of the guitarists of Deicide, even though their singer is a satanist.
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Old 2007-04-19, 21:06
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okay...how about we just end this post with...


who the fuck cares about what the bands believe in or not. most likely, half of them are either christian (and just dont announce it), or they are athiest and dont believe in anything at all.

the reason why some claim satanism is b/c ppl like yourselves make a big deal over it. <---point proven above.


and to make things perfectly clear on BDM...they are no where near satanic. we played a show with them at tremont music hall in 06, and we had good talks back stage about a lot of things.



stop assuming things, its most likely wrong.
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I think Farewell is actually confusing Cannibal Corpse with Deicide based on the "one member beings a christian" thing. Celtic Frost are definitely anti-christian by the way, just as Behemoth are, and just as Morbid Angel used to be. Whether that means "satanic" or not, I don't know.
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"Satanism" in metal is so fuckin cliche anymore.

Too many bands comming out saying "fuck religion! Praise satan!", its so ironic and esspecially lame when half the people who say it don't even believe in what they're saying.
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I checked wikipedia, and it says that the drummer Paul Mazurkiewicz is a jew. Perhaps that's the one they were thinking of?

I knew Paul was a jew the moment I looked at his last name, couldn't read it and couldn't spell it to save my life.


The whole little Satanic band fad to me is dead, and anyone trying to resurrect it is wasting their time. Sure, it's funny hearing someone at the bar during a show to blubber out, "Hail Satan," but can anyone honestly say it's a big deal? No teachers in any schools these days, to the best of my knowledge, taking old Black Sabbath records and playing them backwards, disregarding the fact that records are obsolete.
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You'd be surprised man. I know people who still honestly believe that rock'n'roll is evil. I don't mean rock music in general. I mean Rolling Stones, Beatles, Elvis blah blah blah. And then the rest of rock music.
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Celtic Frost are the most LaVey Satanic [these days anyway, on Monotheist for sure, lots of LaVey shit there] and I think that they are probably the most into what they do. the other bands do it for show i think.
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You'd be surprised man. I know people who still honestly believe that rock'n'roll is evil. I don't mean rock music in general. I mean Rolling Stones, Beatles, Elvis blah blah blah. And then the rest of rock music.

Are all these people in a retirement home/look like they should be, or are there youth out their today with their heads filled with these lies?
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If you take 'Satanic' to mean 'not Christian,' then all those bands are satanic. CC and BDM aren't anything near Satanic; Behemoth and Celtic Frost have both thrown in fairly literate Satanic-style references into their songs; and MA was never Satanic, rather originally gay Sumerian-style pagan and now gay Deepak Chopra-style new age. But, again, if you consider everything that is not godly to be Satanic, then they're all Satanic.
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