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Old 2004-08-22, 17:58
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I went to my local guitar store and saw a used Marshall valvestate VS100 half stack. I tried it out and it sounds pretty good. The distortion isnt brutal so I got a Boss M-2 and hooked that up. I was really pleased with the sound. It is selling for $550 for the full half stack and then I found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3742894453&rd=1 on ebay. I wasnt expecting much from this amp for the fact thats its a discontinued marshall but im surprised by the sound of it (with/without the M-2). Im thinking of getting this and then a 1960 to add on, what are your takes on it? For me money is the key factor in this because I have almost nothing (that plus what im going to get for selling my old guitar, amp, and gnx3). So for the money do you think this is a good start? I plan to buy an extra cab soon after and a distortion pedal if I purchase this. So yea any comments beside "marshall sucks", because thats what I thought about it before I gave it a chance?
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Old 2004-08-22, 18:31
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you can get e better sounding tube amp for that price.

Blue voodoo's go really cheap.
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Iv seen them on ebay and they are going for 400 or so, then add a 1960 and thats like 900 (include shipping ect). Whats the cheapest u have seen a BV120h go for on ebay?
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Those prices dont meen anything. I meen what have you seen them go for when the auction closes? Those amps could end up to be 400+ by the time the auction is over.
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you can get e better sounding tube amp for that price.

Blue voodoo's go really cheap.

Do you meen just the head of the head and cab? Im not going to get a tube amp and cab for 550.
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I went to my local guitar store and saw a used Marshall valvestate VS100 half stack. I tried it out and it sounds pretty good. The distortion isnt brutal so I got a Boss M-2 and hooked that up. I was really pleased with the sound. It is selling for $550 for the full half stack and then I found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3742894453&rd=1 on ebay. I wasnt expecting much from this amp for the fact thats its a discontinued marshall but im surprised by the sound of it (with/without the M-2). Im thinking of getting this and then a 1960 to add on, what are your takes on it? For me money is the key factor in this because I have almost nothing (that plus what im going to get for selling my old guitar, amp, and gnx3). So for the money do you think this is a good start? I plan to buy an extra cab soon after and a distortion pedal if I purchase this. So yea any comments beside "marshall sucks", because thats what I thought about it before I gave it a chance?

i also tried one of those out today (it was used) the tubes must have been really shot cause its sounded like pure shit. it probably sounds pretty good with new tubes though but 550 for a half stack, you aint gonna beat that
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Old 2004-08-22, 19:09
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i also tried one of those out today (it was used) the tubes must have been really shot cause its sounded like pure shit. it probably sounds pretty good with new tubes though but 550 for a half stack, you aint gonna beat that


Yea I would probably get some new tubes to put in once I could get the money.
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Old 2004-08-22, 19:13
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Thats not a full tube amp.

It only has preamp tubes. But the poweramp is all solid state.
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Do you meen just the head of the head and cab? Im not going to get a tube amp and cab for 550.

you'd be suprised.... used bv120h's normally go for $350 used. then $150-350 more on a "good" used cab(not something cheap like a b52,behringer,ect.)... walla.

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i also tried one of those out today (it was used) the tubes must have been really shot cause its sounded like pure shit. it probably sounds pretty good with new tubes though but 550 for a half stack, you aint gonna beat that

as bls said, not a full tube amp.. it's hybrid.
tube preamp and s.s. poweramp. which is retarded really because the majority of "tube tone" comes from the poweramp and not the preamp...

and the way preamp tubes work, i doubt they would be shot because they last for years and years, like 3 or 4 times longer than poweramp tubes...
alot of people don't like the avt's and valvestate stuff. you're not alone.
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Whats another good cab besides the 1960a?
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I saw a 1960a go for $350 last night on ebay, it had one bid and was in perfict condition... Maybe there is hope for the 1960a being in rig after all.
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dont forget if you get it off ebay to calculate the 75-100 for shipping
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yea i know. Any other stacks i should look at besides the 1960 that are possibly cheaper new or used?
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I like peavey...5150 II head or 5150 head, with a crate cab.
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What crate cab? BV series?
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Iv been looking at the 5150 and didnt know they were this cheep (around 400-500) so i think im going to get that and a cheap yet good cab. Any good ones for cheap?

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Holy fucking christ, GET IT!!!!!!!!! 5150s are like $1,000 dollars. I don't know much about the crate cabs, but I remember their sound. It was a lot like the peavey sound, which is why I think they should go together. Or marshall cab with a 5150 head.
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The 5150 cabs sound great with the 5150 and they can be found cheap.
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Holy fucking christ, GET IT!!!!!!!!! 5150s are like $1,000 dollars. I don't know much about the crate cabs, but I remember their sound. It was a lot like the peavey sound, which is why I think they should go together. Or marshall cab with a 5150 head.

so what? jmp-1's go for $1000 new... and i bought mine used for under half that. that's what happens to new gear, it loses value big time when trying to resale.
not all crates sound alike. the standard bv412's are pure shit..... yet the bv cabs with vintage 30's sound amazing....
marshall cabs are just good all around cabs and they're fairly priced.
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