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Old 2004-08-11, 15:36
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Question New string problem

Hey all...im a newbie

I decided to get some heavier guage strings to replace my crappy Super Slinkys, so I bought some Ernie Ball Power Slinkys ( 11 , 14, 18p, 28, 38, 48).

So I put em on and they sound awsome...but then noticed that my bridge was raised (ass up) a whole lot higher then it originally was. It seems a bit abnormal because its actually raised so high that it cant go any further, making the tremola pretty much unusable.

I just wanted to know if this was normal, and if it isnt then what can I do to fix it?

Thanx in advance
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Old 2004-08-11, 15:42
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First, do you have a floyd or a vintage tremolo (if you dont know, its the one you see on fenders usually)? if you have a vintage trem, id suggest tightening your trem claw, which is behind were you put shove the strings through the bridge. or add another spring and then tighten it. Or you could block it with a peice of wood like i did, and now your guitar is like a stop bar.

If its a floyd, i dunno, start drop tuning to lower the tension.
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Old 2004-08-11, 15:42
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so what ibanez are you using?

you do know how to adjust your trem springs, don't you boi!?
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Old 2004-08-11, 15:55
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I have an Ibanez RG170DX...Yeah yeah its the cheap one, but its got shark-tooth inlays so at least it looks cool

Its got the Floyd Rose trem.

Trem springs?? oops no I dont think so. Are they the little screws that are at the back of the trem...1 for each string?? If thats them then what can i do?
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Old 2004-08-11, 15:58
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don't touch those!!! haha

you see the back of your RG? it has a black cover plate (the big one in the middle)

theres 3 springs in there to hold back your trem, because you've got a thicker gauge string now, you've fuck up the tension on the springs and you need to add tension to straighten out the floyd again.

its pretty easy, theres two screws on the locking plate (at the side of the neck) turn them more into the body to add tension (thats what you need to do, turn them equally, be sure to count your turns)

if you want to put on less tension, just turn them counterclockwise, that way the trem goes up again.

theres tutorials about how to adjust floyd's on the net, they probably explain it in more detail then I just did, but you get the idea, its something you NEED to learn, because everytime you change strings or want to change the action, its nice to know how to do it..
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Old 2004-08-11, 15:59
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I cant help you with that, since ive never used a floyd... but i might be getting a jackson Dkmg soon, so if i run into a problem and fix it ill email you with the details
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Old 2004-08-11, 16:27
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i hate when my bridge goes up...i buy what the manual said and it still goes up when I tune to E... and can't stay tuned for very long and I constantly am tuning it tighter and tighter...evil shit.
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Old 2004-08-11, 16:28
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Hmmmm... *hands behind my back*... Iv seen them before but iv always been to scared to play around with springs and screws and things. I think Im gonna buy a cheap guitar off ebay sometime to mess around with coz i really wanna know how to setup a guitar properly.

Im going to give it a go now. Thanx for your help!

Innards-decay, yeah thanks that would be cool. Those dinkys are hot! Iv had my eye on the DKMGTFF(the one with flame inlays) for quite a while now
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Old 2004-08-11, 18:33
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yeah, put an 81/85 in there and ill be smokin!
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Old 2004-08-11, 19:06
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This should have been posted in the Offical Bridge Thread, but since it isent ill just give you this useful link which you would have found in the first page of The Official Bridge Thread... if you cared to read before you post.

http://www.glowingtubes.com/p/FloydTuning.htm
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Old 2004-08-11, 21:03
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Look at this
http://www.glowingtubes.com/images/...usic/spring.gif
Since the bridge is leaning forward, you'll need to tighten the springs. This happens when you put heavier strings on because they have more tension.
If you already didnt know, the strings hold the bridge up. The springs keep the bridge down thus making it floating. You can see how all that works in the pic.
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Old 2004-08-11, 23:22
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ha! all us cool people disable our floyds....
no more going out of tune when i break a string.....
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Old 2004-08-11, 23:34
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Pfft, why even have a floyd then?

just get a KAHLER
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Old 2004-08-12, 01:14
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Pfft, why even have a floyd then?

just get a KAHLER

because most of ibanez's nicest guitars only come with floyd style trems..... my early 90's rg570 is sweet as hell... and i got way good deal on it, when you buy things used you don't get "options". i have no need for a trem anyways. sorry stevie ray.
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Old 2004-08-12, 01:19
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Yes you do, it should be illegal to have a guitar without a Kahler.

otherwise its a waste
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Old 2004-08-12, 08:00
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Yeah BLS I did read before I posted, but since I had just put on heavier gauge strings, and I thought was more of a strings question...but I was wrong

Thanks for the links though, they pretty much explain it all and is very helpfull

I would disable my floyd, but I do use it sometimes, although I dont really use the bar, I just palm the bridge to get a bit of a whammy sound, kinda like munky and head from korn although I think they have special bridges on their K7s to do that properly.

Just one more question, right now the screws are tightened to the max, so if I was to ever put an even heavier guage on then would I have to get stronger springs??

Thanx for your help
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Old 2004-08-12, 09:19
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Put even heavyer gauge strings on it and tune to standard E, and you most definitly fuck up the neck of your guitar.
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Old 2004-08-12, 09:34
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he's prolly not tuning in E, since really thick gauge strings in standard tuning play like ass. (especially when you do bends and shit)

Floyd's are fucking incredible. I love my '89 Edge trem!
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Old 2004-08-12, 09:49
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Yeah not in E, Its in dropped D tuning..thats why I thought I could get away with thicker guage strings, but now thats its all fixed its cool
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Old 2004-08-12, 13:24
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he's prolly not tuning in E, since really thick gauge strings in standard tuning play like ass. (especially when you do bends and shit)

Floyd's are fucking incredible. I love my '89 Edge trem!


kahlers are good n' all, but i don't like to depend on trems, not all good guitars have them.... i dunno, it's just better without for me...

my rg570 has an edge too, it's iight, better than my 2000 pgm's....... but still, similar probs.
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