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Old 2004-06-15, 05:51
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Megadeth?

I have searched around the internet, but can't really figure out what the hell is happening with Mustaine. I've heard that Megadeth is reforming, Dave Mustaine is doing solo work, he will start songwriting in a year or so, I don't really know what to believe. Does anyone know exactly what is happening?
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Old 2004-06-15, 05:59
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megadeth.com tells you what you need to know. The new megadeth cd will be called the system has failed.
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Old 2004-06-15, 06:02
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Megadeth needs to lay down and die. I love them..don't get me wrong; but the albums just keep getting shittier and shittier.
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Old 2004-06-15, 06:05
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Megadeth needs to lay down and die. I love them..don't get me wrong; but the albums just keep getting shittier and shittier.

This is true. 'Rude Awakening' was awesome, I liked the track 'Return to Hangar' but the rest of their newest album was sub-par. Even Kreator can't produce a decent album anymore. The only band that keeps the old school thrash going is Exodus.
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hopefully this one will be better, i heard a clip and it was definetly ALOT better than "motopyshco" and that other bullshit. And Chris Poland wrote the leads so maybe it will be more like peace sells..
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Old 2004-06-15, 06:09
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hopefully this one will be better, i heard a clip and it was definetly ALOT better than "motopyshco" and that other bullshit. And Chris Poland wrote the leads so maybe it will be more like peace sells..

Ahhhhh... Peace Sells.... that would be good.
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Old 2004-06-15, 23:30
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I've heard their new song 'Kick the Chair'. It was ok. They've done a hell of a lot better than Metallica on their more resent albums. Well Duh. Lol St. Anger
Worst album ever...
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Old 2004-06-16, 00:48
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It's not just Exodus. Overkill, Sodom, Destruction, Dreams of Damnation and even Death Angel come to mind.

I dug Kick the Chair. I'll be buying the new album.
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Old 2004-06-16, 02:20
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Megadeth needs to lay down and die. I love them..don't get me wrong; but the albums just keep getting shittier and shittier.


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Old 2004-06-16, 03:07
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I don't believe my eyes... Megadeth will never have a bad rep with me... But I do hope the next album kicks some ass better than before.

I have waited many years, dreaming and praying every night to God and Satan, who ever will listen to my desperate cries, that Chris Poland get back with Dave and return Megadeth back to it's former glory. So doom on everyone who doesn't believe in the cause, hehe; this is a dream come true for me and most of the metal world.
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Old 2004-06-16, 03:15
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I'm sorry but fuck Chris Poland. Marty Friedman is where it is at.
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Old 2004-06-16, 03:32
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NNOOOOOOOOO!

I like Marty, but fuck him right in the ear compared to Chris, imo of course. To me, Peace Sells has got to be the best Megadeth album ever made and I feel that it is no small part due to Chris. The leads on that album own anything that I have ever heard Marty play. Pure uncut 100% grade A+ thrash metal. Hell, Marty's doing pop techno rock now, his life long dream.
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I'm sorry but fuck Chris Poland. Marty Friedman is where it is at.


their two totally different guitarist
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I liked them both. Marty probably a little more. I just dig his solos more.
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Old 2004-06-16, 05:30
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NNnnnnooooooooooo!!!!!! Why can't these arseholes just leave well enough alone? Not content with the very dead horse of Megadeth's former (PRE-Youthanasia) glory being flogged into a puddle. These...these...BASTARDS come back to once again tarnish the name of a band that once ruled but no longer does. Like, at all. This is really like trying to RE-resurrect Jesus. Yeah, he's important & probably a cool guy, but he's fucking dead! And he smells just like any other rotting corpse! Argh!

Sorry to anyone that still has the tenacity to keep the dream alive for this band, but show me a song they've made in the last ten years that comes even close to being as good as Hanger 18. No one? That's what I thought.
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Hey, you can't speak to me like that!

...I'm very passionate about my thrash....
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Old 2004-06-16, 13:19
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Old 2004-06-16, 16:10
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This is why I believe in Chris Poland so much. Listen, the leads are fantastic. True Megadeth.

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I like Marty Friedman's leads - he's such a good guitarist and has plenty of ideas up his cavernous sleeve.
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Old 2004-06-17, 03:54
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I reckon I have to side with Soul on this one, Chris Poland is just so fucking Megadeth it's ridiculous. Friedman's probably technically more competant (wait, make that definitely), but Megadeth's best stuff was the Chris Poland, bleeding nostrils days.

[edit] They just made better music.

Sorry, I forgot to add that little summation.
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It's not just Exodus. Overkill, Sodom, Destruction, Dreams of Damnation and even Death Angel come to mind.

I dug Kick the Chair. I'll be buying the new album.


Destruction's Metal Discharge reminds me of the Dream Evil song 'made of metal.'

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and so is my wife
I am his wife - shut up"

Sodom is really the only incredible thrash band from back in the day that is still releasing great fucking thrash. (and I usually hate thrash)

Rust In Peace is a landmark thrash album. I don't think it could ever be out-done, or even attempted.
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Old 2004-06-17, 05:27
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Rust In Peace is a landmark thrash album. I don't think it could ever be out-done, or even attempted.



It's the difinitive Megadeth, yes, but it's not the best thrash album ever. It has some of the best thrash songs ever, (Holy Wars... The Punishment Due; Tornado of Souls, Hanger 18), but overall, I've heard better.

Overkill, Kreator, Dark Angel, Exodus, and Sodom come to mind.
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I reckon I have to side with Soul on this one, Chris Poland is just so fucking Megadeth it's ridiculous.


Thank goodness. I was starting to believe I might be the only one who thinks Chris belongs in Megadeth more then Marty.
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Chris has a playing style far superior for Megadeth, but Marty is more skilled and a faster player. Marty is a better player, but not for Megadeth. That's all.
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Old 2004-06-18, 02:36
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i cant believe dave is playing with chris again after he stole his guitars and told them for heroin
 
Old 2004-06-18, 02:58
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What? Where did you learn that? If it is true then that was 20 years ago and heroin can make poeple do stupid shit anyway. They are both clean now. Did dave steal Chris's guitar or was it the other way around? Either way, the next album should be the best in a long awaited time for Megadeth fans.
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Old 2004-06-18, 03:18
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get the video "melodic control" by Marty Friedman. He is one of the best guitar players i have ever heard. He is so creative its amazing. He bends odd notes, its impossible to improvise like he does. Nobody else really has his sound, but other than that i have no say on the chris poland vs marty in megadeth issue because im not a big fan of theirs.
 
Old 2004-06-18, 06:15
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Chris pawned Daves guitars for drug money, i learnt this from an interview, Dave used B.C Rich guitars on the first 2 albums apparently he had a one of a kind though forget what it was, then he made the switch to Jackson, which surprises me cause he said Chris has never said sorry and that he could die tomorrow and he would n't give a shit
 
Old 2004-06-18, 07:35
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Marty Friedman is technically superior to Chris Poland on all levels. I'll definitely agree, though, that Peace Sells had more groove than any other Megadeth album, and I listen to that album constantly, which is to say more often than I listen to their other albums, which is also very often.

BTW, hearing that Chris Poland is collaborating with Dave makes me think that Chris never heard the fucking song "Liar" off of So Far, So Good... Too bad, it's a badass fucking song. The way Poland used to be, I'm fucking surprised he's even still alive. His buddy Gar (RIP, who left the band in support of Chris when he was kicked out) wasn't so lucky. Shit like he did usually catches up to you. Good luck to him and Dave.

BTW, I don't really like new Megadeth. I don't think it sucks, I'm just not a big fan of that style of rock. Let's face it, it's not metal anymore.
 
Old 2004-06-18, 13:34
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The infamous Chris Rezendez. About 90% of the songs I've learned is from your tabs!
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Old 2004-06-18, 14:27
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I wish someone would do a good job on tabing "Good morning black Friday". I have got most of it right but the leads just kill me. A link to the song was posted my me in this thread. Can anyone here play those leads? It's by far my favorate Megadeth song.
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Old 2004-06-18, 17:29
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There are some good tabs of "Black Friday" out there, but I can't seem to find a good version of the "Good Mourning" part. I guess it's well enough because I'm never tuned 1/4 step down anyway. BTW, thanks for the compliments, MetalThrashingMad.

I remember a long time ago talking to Mike Kimball about him doing it, but I'd just have to say he's a LITTLE busy now... Hehe... That guy ruled, and he probably still does, but I wouldn't know because I haven't talked to him in like a year.
 
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i just saw a picture of chris now he looks like hes in his 50's short grey hair and glasses
 
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i just saw a picture of chris now he looks like hes in his 50's short grey hair and glasses


Ya, he doesn't look like much of a metal head but he sure knows how to play like one.

I just learned that he did the solos on the Lamb of God song, "Purified", and that he will be doing solos on their new album too.
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I just learned that he did the solos on the Lamb of God song, "Purified", and that he will be doing solos on their new album too.

AHHH, WHY?
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Old 2004-06-21, 15:02
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Megadeth fuckin blows ass. Come on Peace sell but who's buyin'. Risk. Gay, gay, gay. Thrash? Hardly, they are buttrock all the way. Hello me it's me again. what the fuck is that shit. Anyway i rest my case. Megadeth is gay.
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There was no sense or form in your post. The only word I could make out a lot was "gay".
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Old 2004-06-22, 03:33
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Don't care if Megadeth's last few albums were gay. I kidda think Marty was the cause anyway.
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Megadeth fuckin blows ass. Come on Peace sell but who's buyin'. Risk. Gay, gay, gay. Thrash? Hardly, they are buttrock all the way. Hello me it's me again. what the fuck is that shit. Anyway i rest my case. Megadeth is gay.

But the real irony is that you like it!!!
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Megadeth fuckin blows ass. Come on Peace sell but who's buyin'. Risk. Gay, gay, gay. Thrash? Hardly, they are buttrock all the way. Hello me it's me again. what the fuck is that shit. Anyway i rest my case. Megadeth is gay.


Sweating Bullets is a song about schizophrenia. Sorry if your too fuckin stupid to know that. Go listen to some Killswitch engage or whatever bullshit you like... obviously you have no idea what good song writing is.
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Dave should run for Governor of a state or Congress. He would be great to have in the government system. Just think of all the shit he would cause
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What is there to not like, unless he is in your band and you are Metallica?

Dave has had problems but he is a good dude, and smart too. Wouldn't you join his band if he asked? He is really listening to folks about what music he should play now. The next album should be great.
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the new Exodus makes me laugh..... The only band I think that keeps it old school is Usurper.
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I have lots of respect for Dave. he kept fighting he didnt give up. ok so Megadeths last stuff wasnt amazing. but i mean it happens to ever band. most people would give up if they had to be stuck in metallicas shadow all the time. I'm not saying it didnt eat him up inside but he still didnt quit.
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What is there to not like, unless he is in your band and you are Metallica?

Dave has had problems but he is a good dude, and smart too. Wouldn't you join his band if he asked? He is really listening to folks about what music he should play now. The next album should be great.

Yeah, most people think he is just a punk, but he really is very smart.
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Dave has a temper so he is kinda a asshole, but yes, also a genius. I might be a punk too if Meatllica did to me what they did to Dave.
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Megadeth: Its official, Nick Menza rejoins group

Drummer Nick Menza has officially rejoined MEGADETH, according to Nick's posting on the MEGADETH web site. "Yes, it's time to rock the globe once again," he writes. "After getting my head on straight and mending things up with the General [Mustaine], I'm very happy and excited to be back! I 'm very grateful to all you droogies who supported my return. Thank you! You won't regret it.

"I am in the process of learning the new material. It totally jams! I am loving jammin' along with it. Can't wait to play it live. It's gonna crush! I don't have any favorite songs yet. I've only had the CD one week. I like them all."

MEGADETH's new album, "The System Has Failed", is scheduled for release on September 14 through Sanctuary Records. The CD was recorded at Phase Four studios in Tempe, Arizona and features mainman Dave Mustaine alongside drummer Vinnie Colaiuta and bassist Jimmy Sloas. Additional lead guitar tracks were laid down by former MEGADETH guitarist Chris Poland.

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did n't Menza have cancer?
 
Old 2004-07-08, 04:01
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Last I heard he had knee cancer. That was a few years ago so maybe he is cured.
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Man this is kick ass, Menza on drums, and Poland on leads
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"The System Has Failed" should be pure MEGADETH. Even the title sounds like something Dave would have used 20 years ago... Maybe he has been drinking again?
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The new album will probably be worth buying (and better than their other new stuff), but anybody who thinks this will be anywhere near as awesome as Peace Sells or Rust in Peace will be setting themselves up for a major disappointment. I'll probably buy it.
 
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I am hoping that it is as great as Peace Sells or RIP, but not a copy of them. I want the new album to just have an old Megadeth theme and feel. Dave seemed to try lots of new directions in the 90's, but I think he is longing to feel and sound like him old self again.

Plus, Dave always seems to make the best music when driven by termoil. Seemed the last few albums were inspired by internal conflict and not worldly/exterior conflict like back in the old days... times have changed today, so I'm sure he has lots to say about it and some music to go with it.
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At the way music goes nowadays, I would be happier than a busload of retards on the way to Chucky Cheese if this way a copy of anything they did RIP or before. I make joke.
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MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine has posted the following message on the band's official web site:

"Here is what I have been saying in the interviews, what happened chronologically that caused the demise of the band, why [drummer] Nick [Menza] was fired, [guitarist] Marty [Friedman] quitting, records turning out the way they did, and finally me walking away.

"When 'Countdown To Extinction' came out, the band and I were ecstatic to have a number 2 record. But if you could believe this, also during that time there were a lot of the 'movie-type intervention group therapy meetings' with me in the middle of a session of what rapidly was referred to as a 'Dave Bashing' session.

"There were all of these complaints and trying to get me to stop using drugs, as well as comments about my leadership skills. I remember them all taking a test and grading me as well as numerous other shameful and painful exercises meant to crack me or break me down.

"Well, this really hurt all of us, mostly me. The members at these sessions were Nick, Marty, Junior, Ron Laffitte (manager), Raymond May (counselor), David White (counselor – and not Gadget, the guitar tech).

"Ultimately, it made me start to be very cautious of everything and we instituted a no-drinking, no-drug clause, that everyone would agree to, myself included. There would be random testing and so on, and this was because of Ron's friendship with AEROSMITH's manager and how this 'process had worked for them.'

"I allowed more input from not only management, and the band, but also the counselors and even Max Norman, who had gotten more permission in the next record which was called 'Youthanasia'.

"By the time 'Youth' was done, I had so much inner turmoil that I wanted to leave MEGADETH, but instead I asked to do a solo project. I had been writing songs for the next MEGADETH record after 'Youth' and because 'Countdown to Extinction' had come in at #2 and 'Youth' at #4, Capitol agreed to keep me happy.

"I set out to do a punk metal record with Lee Ving called MD.45, and they gave me $250,000 to do the project.

"As cool as this is for them to have admitted it, Capitol did not market MD.45 at all because it would have possibly interfered with their other priority, the successful band MEGADETH. However, the great people of EMI have allowed me to go back in and re-issue this record, which I am totally pumped about.

"After I faced that I had not succeeded with MD.45 I was ready to do the next MEGADETH record called 'Cryptic Writings'. However, before this record, Ron Laffitte called me to tell me that he was going to be taking a job at Elektra Records, and we parted ways very badly. This is where the phrase you have heard 'difficult' came in. Ron and I have since made amends but the damage of his comments about me and the inside damage to my heart from the 'Dave Bashing Sessions' had changed the dynamics of MEGADETH forever. And to this day, no one has ever apologized for it.

"I had gotten a new manager after Ron left named Mike Renault that I really liked, and he had a partner named Bud Prager that came out to meet me and took over, without my consent, or Mike's knowledge, and started to try to convert MEGADETH to a different band, a band he had managed before called FOREIGNER.

"The first days we talked about the writing of 'Cryptic', how I write, that he wants me to run everything past him, that he was going to assess critically the other band members' music, and he would write with me as a ghost writer. Although you have seen on 'Risk' there was no more ghost writer.

"This hurt me, hurt my relationship with the band, and Bud's relationship with Mike, and most importantly my relationship with you.

" 'Cryptic' came out and while it was really good, it was not really thrash or speed metal anymore. You see when 'Countdown to Extinction' came out, there was another record called 'Nevermind' out at the same time too. And now there was a fork in the road. Does MEGADETH follow the alternative road, does it follow the road it's on, which will lead to going underground, or does it do nothing?

"I think you can tell by the haircuts, fancy shoes, and clothes that the road opposite the underground was chosen, although we never really chose to follow alternative. Yet.

"I was very pleased with the results of 'Cryptic', regardless of the music genre, and relished in the moment. But that was short-lived. The others were fighting with Bud and with me; Bud had convinced me to give the all 10% each of my publishing, which is a sacred way of earning money, one of only two ways you make money off of selling a record, unless you are fortunate enough to get royalties from ASCAP or BMI, of which I belong to BMI. He suggested to buy them out, and he would get them to leave me alone. This is something that he told me was done in FOREIGNER, a band he managed.

"But he never said that he was going to want publishing, that he was going to bring in outside writers, that he was going to give away more of my points to the production team.

"Now, 'Countdown to Extinction' was 2X Platinum, 'Youth' was 1X Platinum, but 'Cryptic' failed to reach Platinum. It did make Gold status in the USA.

"Meanwhile, I had a falling out with Nick about an injury in his leg and the hidden drug problems he was having that was affecting his playing. I let him go, but I loved him enough to stay in close contact with him over the next five years. He told me that Junior has called him all of twice in five years.

"In comes DeGrasso, and I knew him from MD.45, but this was different. Many of my friends told me that he would not be the right guy, and that I was making a big mistake. How could I be making a mistake with a person that played that well?

"I didn't understand or believe them and went on with it. We started to write 'Risk'.

"By now the letters had been going out by Bud to the other band members like 'Your songs are a dime a dozen, maybe a nickel,' 'This is awful, like Ali Baba's 100 Arabian nights.' And this anger for Bud ended coming back at me. I didn't want to have to deal with anyone anymore, and Bud was totally power drunk. His relationship with Mike Renault was on the rocks, and it wasn't long until Mike left Bud's firm. On this record Bud suggested making the song 'Crush 'em' and that we use an outside songwriter that he manages named Brain Howe, the singer of BAD COMPANY. He also tried getting me to write with the Country Music Songwriter of the year, some chick that I would have to move out to Nashville to work with for a few days or weeks.

"Droogies, I did take a huge risk and that was why it was called 'Risk', because even though I felt this was going to be career suicide, 'Cryptic' had done great at radio. I just hadn't learned yet that radio doesn't always translate into record sales, sales which you need to stay in business. It isn't just about the record sales that keep you in business either. If it appears that you are not selling records, you will more often than not be put into a smaller venue, and so on. The noose gets tighter.

"When 'Risk' was done, I believed it was a great record, it just was not a MEGADETH record. Marty has confessed that he and the management, and the A & R department of Capitol were the ones trying to make MEGADETH alternative, and after all of the 'internal terrorism' that I mentioned in Vortex, I just started to give in to this fatal democratic leadership. I surrendered.

"Once 'Risk' came out and we watched the fans freak out that it was not MEGADETH, I said, 'We need to make a metal record, yep we are going to make a metal record!' This is why I believe Marty quit.

"Sure, he will tell you the songs were simple, or my lyrics were dark, or a hundred other reasons, but I think Marty was happy with the fact that MEGADETH was trying to turn alternative; that was until Dann Huff stuck the knife in his back by not telling me that he had not told Marty that he had erased his solo and put a solo by me there instead.

"Marty was visibly hurt, I was hurting for him, and I knew we were just on life support.

"In comes Al Pitrelli after Marty has his nervous breakdown.

"Meanwhile, Roy Lott, the president of Capitol Records made up a fake gold record award to give to me and I couldn't even look at the cameras when they ask us to pose with them. This is because it said to 'commemorate 500,000 sales worldwide' not in America. I purposed hung this record crooked in my office to remind me of who was working on this record.

" 'Risk' only sold 350,000 copies approximately.

"So I started 'The World Needs A Hero' with Al, who was a leader for TRANS SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA, and also SAVATAGE. It took a lot for Al to submit to not being a leader and being second fiddle, but Junior did not allow him to be second; that was his spot, and Jimmy wouldn't allow him to be third; that was his spot.

"So by taking the gig, Al went from the front of the line to the back of the line. I have no hard feelings for Al, he married a nice lady, and I wish him the best.

"Back to the record: When 'TWNAH' was finished, we took it to Capitol and told them that we wanted off of the label, and they said, 'Give us two songs, let us put out a greatest hits record, and don't release this new 'TWNAH' record that we are going to give back to you for nine months so that it won't interfere with our greatest hits record that we are going to put out.' It made sense to me, and we agreed.

"Somehow the A & R guy from Capitol Steve Schner (possibly), and certainly someone from Capitol had sent out what seemed like hundreds of promotional copies of 'TWNAH'. We found them all over eBay, and every person selling them had the same story, which lead to the suspicion; 'We found it in a used record bin in a box on the street in NYC.'

"Sure ya did.

"And this continued for nine months of illegal downloading on Napster and the like, so that when the record finally came out, it only sold a little over 200,000. This is great for some bands, but it was not great for me.

"I was watching everything I had built for 20 years die in front of my own eyes.

"I started drinking in the back of the bus with Al at night, and eventually one day is was in San Diego and was supposed to play an acoustic radio show for KIOZ and found out for all of our trouble and for all of their gratitude, they were playing the song only 2 times that whole week prior to the special show we were doing for them.

"That night I got loaded.

"I eventually finished the tour, but I couldn’t stand to be around any of the guys. Junior would walk up to me on stage and I would walk away, Jimmy would miss parts and timed choreographed segues because he was off of his drums yelling at the monitor man.

"This is the point at the end of the tour I went in to rehab, and where I fell asleep on my arm.

"While I was in rehab, I had told the band's manager at the time, Larry Mazer, that I needed a vacation and that I was having a breakdown, and that he should pull the plug for a while. He didn't listen.

"While I was in the treatment center, Junior, Larry, and the others went to the label and said we were starting the new record and that we need a third of the budget, which was $333,000. And when Sanctuary, the label, asked where Dave was, Larry said, 'On a horse retreat.'

"Now, all of my friends at the label knew I was afraid of horses, and that something was up. So when I got home I told Larry that I was done and that I was firing him and that I was breaking up MEGADETH.

"I told Junior that I wanted to meet him and explain why and show him my hand, which he saw, contrary to his, 'I only know what he told me' statement in Metal Sludge. I told him that I was going to hand everything over to him so that people would recognize him and at first he thanked me profusely, then later that day he started screaming at me in front of my son, in a public parking place. Even though he hurt my son, and me in the eyes of my son, I did not kick his ass.

"So, I took back the offer to have him run the Estate. Junior said, 'If you're going on with your career, then I am going on with mine.'

"I called Jimmy to tell him and his girlfriend said, 'You are not living up to your potential to be a decent human being.' I guess she would [know] what that looks like from experience. And then she called me 'a liar.'

"I wrote the press release and left all of this stuff out because I thought after a year or two that Jimmy would change his attitude, maybe say some good things about his time in MEGADETH, maybe call up, and apologize for his girlfriend's rudeness, but that never happened. And I also tried to keep in touch with Junior, but he always seemed to want to know what I was doing, which I would have told him if he wouldn't have been so rude. He was forgetful that for the last 20 years I took care of him and employed him, even after three last three producers and even his lead guitarist wanted to fire him for not being good in the studio.

"Six months after I last saw Ellefson, I started to play and 13 months later I did a benefit for someone that worked for me and had died. It was very awkward and I left as quickly as I could because I did not want to have to be interrogated by him.

"18 months later I told Ellefson that I was considering doing a new record and that if he wanted to play with me on it, knowing full well that by asking Marty and Nick, that it would be a 'RIP' line-up record, and NOT A REUNION. I stated numerous times to all three of them, 'It is just a record, not a reunion.'

"I told him that the offer was exactly what his share is that is in the original contract that he signed with Sanctuary, which is 20% of all MEGADETH's earnings on the record, and remember, someone had gone to the label and taken $333,000 of the recording fund. I certainly got my share of it sent to me, but it is still sitting over at the band's business manager's office.

"You are now completely up to speed on a simple thumbnail sketch of what happened from 'CTE' thru 'TWNAH' and why the songwriting ruined the chemistry of the band, why the records sales went down, and Marty quit, why my arm got hurt, and I will answer in very intense detail all of the questions on the poll when they are chosen.

"But for know, that's it. I know I did the right thing when I sold all of my personal gear to pay off all of the bills that was owed for MEGADETH, bills that none of them volunteered to pay.

"I wished they would have done the right thing by now, but they didn't. And Junior is suing me and MEGADETH.

"Don't worry though, because after you hear this new record and you see me and Nick together, none of this will matter."
 
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I think the reason marty left is exactly because he wanted to continue to do softer music.

Nick Menza is goofy guy who belives in aliens

and i once heard a story of dave, Marty said one night he was digging threw a pile of puke (could been his or someone elses" looking for cocaine lol...

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Slayer: Kerry King rips into Dave Mustaine calling him a ' Dictator '

In a brand-new interview with Guitar World magazine, SLAYER's Kerry King spoke about the time he spent in MEGADETH as the band's touring/live guitarist. Asked how he thinks MEGADETH would have turned out if he had stayed in the group, Kerry replied, "I played their first five shows, and if I had stayed I probably wouldn't have lasted more than a year, because [MEGADETH frontman] Dave Mustaine is such a dictator and had much poppier ideas than me. It never would have worked. Jeff [Hanneman, SLAYER guitarist] and I used to go see METALLICA and be blown away by how awesome Mustaine was, so I was honored when the call came asking me to help him. But after five shows, I was like, 'I'm in SLAYER and that ain't going to change." That didn't go over too well."




boy, everyone is jumping on the ' lets rip into Dave ' bandwagon. i guess somone should have asked Kerry why Slayer hasnt released a real album in 10 years?
 
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When Kerry starts writing *metal* again, I might actually take him seriously for chastising somebody for being "poppier" than himself. I wouldn't wipe my ass with sheet music for new songs Kerry has written... I can't wait to see my rating go down now from irate fans of the new Slayerknot.
 
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Damn YounG. Thanks for that post, so much. I have always felt that Dave was a true metalhead. I have never not believed in what Megadeth could do. I have supported them through even the shit albums saying, "Thats not Megadeth... They are just holding back". From what I read just now, I'm proud to say I was right about Megadeth all along.

Thanks, because I now look foward to the new/old Megadeth more than ever. I can't help but think that if they went underground again after CTE, none of this BS would have happened to Megadeth. Sure, underground sales may not be huge, but are solid and consistant because your fans ARE fans forever. I hope Dave knows this now.

Also, I wished I had the money to have bought one of Dave's guitars back when they were being sold on ebay. I looked at them ever day trying to figure out how to afford one.
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Kerry wouldnt have lasted in Megadeth, his lack of musical knowledge would of got him kicked out quit.
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Oddly enough, I thought Megadeth's last few albums were pretty good, just not the real Megadeth or even real metal. It seemed like pretty good rock, but I'm just not really a big fan of that style.
 
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I agree that Megadeth's last albums were not metal, but were great for what they were. Dave is very talented and creative at no matter what he applies himself too. Megadeth is some of the hardest music I've ever learned how to play. Even the new stuff has riffs that are amazing.
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Well.... i just got the Promo Cd of "The System Has Failed" ......... MEGADETH IS BACK!!!1 ITS FUCKIGN AWESOME!! Right now ive only heard the first 3 tracks and OMFG! This makes me so happy, if anyone wants it just pm me or something.. you can download it off me using soulseek.

THIS CD KICKS ASS
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Well.... i just got the Promo Cd of "The System Has Failed" ......... MEGADETH IS BACK!!!1 ITS FUCKIGN AWESOME!! Right now ive only heard the first 3 tracks and OMFG! This makes me so happy, if anyone wants it just pm me or something.. you can download it off me using soulseek.

THIS CD KICKS ASS


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I never did......... HA DARKO!!!! HOPE YOU FEEL LIKE A JACKASS!!!
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I know you didn't. My post came out wrong. I was speaking to everyone who wrote them off, the bastards.

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OMG I have got to hear this CD! BLS, I don't have soulseek. Is the CD in stores yet? How did you get the promo CD? If it isn't out in stores yet then do you have an ideal when will it be?

Damn this just made my fuckin day MEGADETH!!!!!! I had a feeling that the new Megadeth would kickass.

BLS, give us some ideal about how it sounds. Are the solos of Chris Poland as thrash as before or what?
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Im not gonna even try and describe how the cd sounds. Soul, if you have msn or something we can try that.
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im just glad its not a st anger lol
 
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I'm so annoyed with Metallica I didn't bother giving St. Anger a try. I never will as long as I live, nor any other stuff Metallica decides to put out before they die. Fuck 'em. All my posts seem to be angry today...
 
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I know Metallica can make a good album if they want to, I just wish they would do it. It's not like they don't know how to play, but they are not really trying that hard.

If they just let Dave do a reunion album/tour with them maybe they might make somrthing worth listening to again.
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They should have quit after Justice in my opinion... The self titled album was decent, but considering how badly they went back on their word, it doesn't matter how good it was. Besides, even though it wasn't that bad, it wasn't that great, either, and you could clearly see they were going downhill from there... The only good album they released after 1989 was the Garage Days stuff, and that's only because they were all covers. I'm not talking about Metallica for the rest of the day.
 
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Some of the Metallica album was alright, but you're right, it was the beginning of the end. All you need to do is look at that twisting turning through the never song, whatever the fuck it's called, I can't remember, haven't listened to the album in at least 5 years, & 'of wolf & man' to see that they were pretty much trying to be angry & just failing chronically.

Then it's settled. And Justice for All was the last album they ever should have made. Now, to the TIME MACHINE to fix history!!! Oh, sorry. I don't have a time machine do I?
Or an assistant...
or a wallet...
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David Ellefson is sueing Mustaine for 18.5 million!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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cause he feels he got left out on royalties or something and mechandise money and hes a bastard
 
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Damn 18.5 million though... I dont think he'll win.
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Then it's settled. And Justice for All was the last album they ever should have made. Now, to the TIME MACHINE to fix history!!! Oh, sorry. I don't have a time machine do I?
Or an assistant...
or a wallet...
*sigh*


If I had a time machine, I'd have more serious priorities. #1 would be going back in time and assassinating whoever invented the "The Real World" to end the modern day "reality" show before it ever existed. Reality shows have made me avoid my TV for a while, and this is coming from somebody who can actually sit through pro wrestling. Yeah.
 
Old 2004-07-17, 04:49
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cause he feels he got left out on royalties or something and mechandise money and hes a bastard


He gets 20% of Megadeth royalties already! That greedy bastard! He will never have to work ever again. He can sit at home, play base all day and get payed for it. I think he is pissed because Dave didn't have him on the new Megadeth album that is going to kick ass once it gets to stores. He is mad because the new Megadeth is going to kick the hell out of the old pussy Megadeth music and David feels left out May be everyone will think the new bass player is better Maybe everyone will think that David only makes old pussy Megadeth music
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holy shit, i just got the new album and it's fuckin awesome.

My Kingdom Come, Kick The Chair and Truth Be Told more than pay the not so good stuff they released in the past 10 yeras.

just get this album, you won't regret it.
 
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holy shit, i just got the new album and it's fuckin awesome.

My Kingdom Come, Kick The Chair and Truth Be Told more than pay the not so good stuff they released in the past 10 yeras.

just get this album, you won't regret it.


Is it in stores?
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holy shit, i just got the new album and it's fuckin awesome.

My Kingdom Come, Kick The Chair and Truth Be Told more than pay the not so good stuff they released in the past 10 yeras.

just get this album, you won't regret it.



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Is it in stores?


bittorrent store, yes. it's an online free shop.
 
Old 2004-07-17, 21:18
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That were i got my copy too!

http://img25.photobucket.com/albums...ry/mockupsm.jpg cool cover, the cd dosent come out until the 14th of september
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Old 2004-07-17, 23:10
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Yeah, I like that album cover. Reminds me of the old Megadeth for sure. I see Bush, Clinton, Hillary, Chaney, Kerry, and is that Jay lino on the far left?
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Old 2004-07-17, 23:35
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Donal Rumpsfeld is in it too.

i think the one of the left is John Madden
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Old 2004-07-18, 01:34
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Haha! I see him now, between Bush and Chaney. But John Madden? It does look like him but also looks like Jay Lino. Who the hell is that supposed to be? Who ever it is, they are not standing in line with the rest of the folks, and I know that there is some symbolic reason for that too. Does it potray the media in some way?
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i read somewhere that one of megadeth's songs is on one of the cds of Headbangers Ball. The song is called "Kick The Chair". is it a good song? and also Black Label Society "House Of Doom"

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