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Old 2004-06-18, 09:14
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I am gonna buy new power tubes sometime soon, I have read that EL34's are better than 6L6's for distortion. True, not true? If the EL34's are better, do I need to get my amp modified to fit the 34's? Any help/suggestions would be very appreciated!

EDIT: Sorry for so many freaking questions guys, but I have seen Svetlana and Sovtek EL34 tubes both for sale, which are BETTER?
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Old 2004-06-18, 13:32
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i find that i like el34's better in most cases... they have an earlier and more extreme breakup point than 6l6's which is better for mega poweramp distortion. thats why jcm 800's sound the best cranked. while amps like rectos(come stock with 6l6s) and such have tones of preamp gain so they don't need to rely on poweramp distortion as much and using 6l6's allows them to have more clean headroom... either way a power amp will distort if pushed to the max. you really just have to decide which you like the best...
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tubes suck

they are too high maintenence
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restrain yourself from posting silly comments if you don't know jackshit about the subject skcoffan.
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restrain yourself from posting silly comments if you don't know jackshit about the subject skcoffan.



Screw off ,retard , ive had bad experiences with tubes
it burnt my house down
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Screw off ,retard , ive had bad experiences with tubes
it burnt my house down


Hahahahahahahahaahahahahaha


OH CHRIST THATS FUNNY!!!
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rofl, he holds a grudge against tube amps
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Its called sarcams you dumbass, I wasnt actually saying everyone who has an EMG is electronicly retarded. But yes EMG tone is awful.



Let's hear how great your tone is. You got any clips?
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Its porbably nice and warm, full of tone. And not generic.

WHY?? Because hes using passives not EMG's like every other dumbass who knows jack shit about pickups and just instantly thinks EMG's are the best cause theoir active, when infact they have NO idea what active means.
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Its porbably nice and warm, full of tone. And not generic.

WHY?? Because hes using passives not EMG's like every other dumbass who knows jack shit about pickups and just instantly thinks EMG's are the best cause theoir active, when infact they have NO idea what active means.

i'd blame all warmness and non generic tone on his amp, not pickups.

you knock emg's too much, play some in a really nice guitar with a nice amp... then you'll realize they're just fine.
just because you have active pickups doesnt mean you'll have generic tone....
just because they're active doesnt mean they sound exactly the same in all guitars. that's just ignorance.
your anti emg rants are almost as stupid as those kids saying emg's are the best because they're active.
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OH CHRIST THATS FUNNY!!!

it's really funny because it wasnt even a tube amp.. he said it was a peavey xxl, which isnt a tube amp lol... he's just a retarded poser black metal/nu metal kid.... he has no idea what the hell he is talking about... he even claimed his line 6 sounds exactly like the amps it models.... it's a spider II.... hell even the top notch line 6 amps don't really sound like the amps they model... i'll eat my own semen if his spider II ever sounds exactly(hell, even resembles) like a mesa recto or any other amp it models...
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i'd blame all warmness and non generic tone on his amp, not pickups.

you knock emg's too much, play some in a really nice guitar with a nice amp... then you'll realize they're just fine.
just because you have active pickups doesnt mean you'll have generic tone....
just because they're active doesnt mean they sound exactly the same in all guitars. that's just ignorance.
your anti emg rants are almost as stupid as those kids saying emg's are the best because they're active.


I have a decent guitar with EMG's, and i play it through a 5150. It tightens up the low end of the 5150, but so does my eq..

i just really dont like the sounds of EMG's i moved on, and it bugs me when people are hell bent on buying EMG's before trying out some other pickups, i used to be like that.
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Its porbably nice and warm, full of tone. And not generic.

WHY?? Because hes using passives not EMG's like every other dumbass who knows jack shit about pickups and just instantly thinks EMG's are the best cause theoir active, when infact they have NO idea what active means.



I know nothing about the tone he get's but I gotta say that's a pretty laughable assumption you give..
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I know nothing about the tone he get's but I gotta say that's a pretty laughable assumption you give..

well, i beleive dead plays a 5150 combo... but i could be mistaken.
anyways, i think he's more likely to have a more generic tone simply because he has a 5150... because the 5150's have pretty much become the standard for most metalcore & hxc, even quite a few black metal, death metal, nu metal, screamo and grindcore bands are using them...

when alot of people use something, it becomes generic. alot of people use emg's.... so i guess they can be pretty generic, alot of people use jb's, so i guess they can be considered generic as well.

by no means do active emg's suck, anybody that says that has no idea what they're talking about. maybe in a certain guitar they wont sound great, or through a certain amp or pedal they wont sound great. but that's not the pu's fault.
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Yes, ALOT of bands use the 5150's ranging from Steve Morse to The Haunted to Arch Enemy. The 5150 like and Active EMG is good at what it does, but not much else. Active pickups are just missing something IMO, nothing can ever beat a Instrument built of quality tonewood's with a Passive Pickups. I also like passive pickups MUCH better for leads. The Dimarzio Tone Zone and Paf Pro's just have this awesome sound to them, like every notes kinda wah's i love it. No EMG will ever be able to obtain that effect with me. I will admit, EMG's can GREATLY enhance the sound of a crappy guitar, but when you put an EMG in a quality guitar like a Les Paul (Take Zakk Wylde for example) you just get that extremely noticeable EMG sound.
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Yes, ALOT of bands use the 5150's ranging from Steve Morse to The Haunted to Arch Enemy. The 5150 like and Active EMG is good at what it does, but not much else. Active pickups are just missing something IMO, nothing can ever beat a Instrument built of quality tonewood's with a Passive Pickups. I also like passive pickups MUCH better for leads. The Dimarzio Tone Zone and Paf Pro's just have this awesome sound to them, like every notes kinda wah's i love it. No EMG will ever be able to obtain that effect with me. I will admit, EMG's can GREATLY enhance the sound of a crappy guitar, but when you put an EMG in a quality guitar like a Les Paul (Take Zakk Wylde for example) you just get that extremely noticeable EMG sound.

i too do enjoy passives, that's all it got.... but my friends lp and my guitarist's sg both have emg's.... they sound great, and *gasp* different.
my guitarist is changing back to passives though, not because emg's suck, but he just wants to try new things.
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Good for him

well, he thinks he wants a dimarzio super distortion bridge + 59 neck setup, but we'll see..... i'm trying to get him to trick out his 5150 first.
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