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Old 2004-05-15, 02:43
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So called satanic bands are so childish! The image that they project of satanism is completly wrong. Satanists aren't opposed to God, they're opposed to the worshipping of God. The true satanists don't believe in a dark lord wich is the exact nemesis of God. The stupid childish conception of opposition to christiannity (good versus evil) is rather manicheist than satanic. ''Satanic'' bands act just as teenagers in their identity crisis seeking for provocation and contradiction. I laugh at them. So does the ''true satanists''.

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Old 2004-05-15, 06:41
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Thank you! Someone who knows what I'm on about at last!

Anyway back to seriousness...

Religion, in my eyes, is a waste of time. I respect the fact that people have the right to believe whatever they want but the Old and New testaments are flawed beyond belief. I can't believe people actually believe that the Earth was created in 6 days and that it sits at the centre of the universe. Scientific proof exists to blow those two theological ideas out of the (holy) water.

I think there are many questions that people have to ask themselves when they consider the religion argument. The first, I would conjecture, is why does religion exist in the first place? Intuitively, the answer lies in the fact that people wanted to enforce a moral code to live by. This moral code was provided and then enforced by people with stories of living the afterlife in tranquility if they obeyed and eternal damnation if they strayed.

The next question follows naturally. What happens when we die? Religion helped to ease any fears of death among the law abiding citizens and frightened unlawful people into obeying the law. The truth is nobody will ever know until the moment that death occurs. There is and cannot ever be any physical proof of either Heaven or Hell but religion played on people's fears and coerced them to believe that it must be true.

A further question: what motivated people to become religious leaders? This is an easy one. Power and control over people. Following from this was the fact that they saw an oppotunity to exploit the people that they were preaching to, again trading off the fear of Divine reprisals.

What of the modern times? Science has disproved many of the stipulations of religion so the religious leaders are now changing tact. Many aspects of the Old and New Testaments are no longer considered to be 'literal' by the church and are now thought of to be metaphors.

This leads me to my final question: isn't a religion based on metaphors a mythology?

I like what Undying Hatred said vis-a-vie his belief that religion should be a private matter. The church is very against this vein of thought as there would obviously be no need for priests or places of worship, thus bringing an end to the lavish lifestyles that many bishops and cardinals enjoy (while many Christians around the world are living in abject poverty, may I add).

I have no problem with people who gain faith, confidence and the will to be good human beings from religion. In this sense religion is a good thing. This is the only way I can see religion surviving. There have been too many advances in science that have brought logic and reason and too many scandals within the Church that have spread disillusion amongst the masses.
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Old 2004-05-15, 07:00
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worshipping satan seems kind of stupid because if you don't believe in God then how much more realistic can Satan be???


This is a prime-cut example of why you guys don't see me around so much any more.
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Old 2004-05-15, 08:19
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So... you mean there is no Satan? First Santa Claus and now Satan. Whats next, Star Trek isn't real either?
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Old 2004-05-15, 08:22
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Satan doesn't need to be the opposite of God.

that's all i have to say on this subject.
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Old 2004-05-15, 08:50
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Old 2004-05-15, 11:13
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I wasn't sure, but I heard that he was. It wouldn't shock me if he was. I do know for a fact that he is really into indian spiritualism. Is there such a thing as a liberal Mormon?

That would make them somthing other than mormon. They fear God's wrath and do everything in their power to be just like him, to please him.
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Old 2004-05-15, 12:10
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I am a Satanist and I am opposed to "God". I agree about the whole creation bit. It is not possible to create something like the Earth in 6 days. If you guys like to read I suggest reading The Devil's Apocrypha by John A DeVito. It gives an alternate version of what happened. It is also the cornerstone of the Church of the Fallen which I am a member of. Check it out you might like it.
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Old 2004-05-15, 12:17
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Pleasedon't think I am knocking anyone's opinion here. With that said I find it rather humorous that people refer to "God" or Satan as he. These are spiritual beings that can manifest as either gender. They also manifest in a manner of how you would see them. That was the one cool part in the Dreamcatcher movie. When Jonesy first saw the alien it appeared like the typical grey's we see in books. When they really looked like giant versions of the ass worms crawling around turning entrails to goo. Oh man my stomach hurts.
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Old 2004-05-15, 13:31
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That would make them somthing other than mormon. They fear God's wrath and do everything in their power to be just like him, to please him.


Thanks, I didn't know for sure, but now it's certain that he isn't Mormon. I know a Mormon back in school that wouldn't drink dark liquids or anything with caffeen, but he said they could drink alcohol. I wonder if they think God drinks alcohol.

Does anyone think that Satan drinks alcohol? If so, what alcohol does Satan like to drink the most?
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Old 2004-05-15, 14:32
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That make's you just as much as a loser as a christian or a buddhist or a kike.
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Old 2004-05-15, 14:40
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That make's you just as much as a loser as a christian or a buddhist or a kike.


Ok I will abandon what I believe now that you think I am a loser. I had worked so hard too. Oh well.
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Old 2004-05-16, 05:03
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Worshipping something or someone that cannot be proven to exist seems rather futile to me.
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Old 2004-05-16, 05:24
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It's insanity. It's a serious mental disorder. A mind plague. If an adult believed that Santa Claus was real and did some things in his name that Christians do, he would be labled insane.
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Old 2004-05-16, 05:32
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WHAT???? SANTA ISNT REAL!!!!!!!!??!!!!!

NOW MY LIFE IS MEANINIGLESS
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Old 2004-05-16, 06:17
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Santa not real? So who was that strange guy in my bedroom on Christmas Eve? He said it would be our little secret...
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So... you mean there is no Satan? First Santa Claus and now Satan. Whats next, Star Trek isn't real either?


Oh my damn... it is true! Nothing is real!
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All i have to say on the subject of religion is, that it was created by high society as a control mechanism over the poor.
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Old 2004-05-16, 07:51
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