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Old 2004-05-12, 13:06
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Randy Rhoads-Ozzy

I was listening to some old ozzy (ultimate sin) last night. I've read stuff here
and there about Randy Rhoads. I like a lot of ozzy's stuff, new and old, and
I was wondering some things:

Who comes up with ozzy's songs? Does he just let the band figure out a
tune and then he applies the lyrics? Does Ozzy play any
instruments/compose music?

Is Randy Rhoads the guy who helped/propelled Ozzy on his solo career? Did
they complement each other extremely well? Is RR the shit?
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Old 2004-05-12, 13:52
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I'm not sure but it seems to me Ozzy is one lucky man, he was surrounded by awesome musicians his whole life. He'd probably still be working in some cheap ass factory in England if not for them. Well maybe not, he's still got an incredible voice.
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Old 2004-05-13, 09:20
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Ozzy's voice is not so much incredible as it is unique. The fellow who replaced Ozzy as the singer for Black Sabbath (Ronnie James Dio), was by far a supreme singer to Ozzy in every aspect. However Ronnie didn't have the unique voice that Ozzy possessed. Ozzy had a certain mysteriousness about him that made Black Sabbath such a unique sound (not to mention they were the first of their kind in terms of the metal genr).
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Old 2004-05-13, 10:10
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I listened to some more ozzy last night and concentrated entirely on RR. He definitely has some good stuff. He plays fills and legatos everywhere. He plays little melodies while ozzy is singing. They are there but do not go over ozzy's voice, very well combined. I'm going to be looking into some more of RR's past and stuff.
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Old 2004-05-13, 12:29
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I listened to some more ozzy last night and concentrated entirely on RR. He definitely has some good stuff. He plays fills and legatos everywhere. He plays little melodies while ozzy is singing. They are there but do not go over ozzy's voice, very well combined. I'm going to be looking into some more of RR's past and stuff.


yea i found out the same thing when listening to the album Ozzmosis, although it had Zakk playing guitar, ozzy's voice still came through real well. And everything just went together
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Old 2004-05-13, 17:49
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Ozzy's voice is not so much incredible as it is unique. The fellow who replaced Ozzy as the singer for Black Sabbath (Ronnie James Dio), was by far a supreme singer to Ozzy in every aspect. However Ronnie didn't have the unique voice that Ozzy possessed. Ozzy had a certain mysteriousness about him that made Black Sabbath such a unique sound (not to mention they were the first of their kind in terms of the metal genr).


I was being sarcastic with the voice. But yeah, there's only one Ozzy, and he swears a lot.

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Old 2004-05-14, 15:10
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Eh. If I know what I'm talking about, I'll give you my opinion. If I don't know what I'm talking about, you're going to hear my opinion anyway. I guess you should feel relieved that I knew what I was talking about in this case.

PS: Zakk Wylde considers Randy Rhoads to be one of the three best guitarists to ever have existed.
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Old 2004-07-01, 16:15
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Zakk it's all right. RR aside with Stevie Ray Vaughn are my favourite guitarrist, so sad the way they die.
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Ozzy's voice is not so much incredible as it is unique. The fellow who replaced Ozzy as the singer for Black Sabbath (Ronnie James Dio), was by far a supreme singer to Ozzy in every aspect. However Ronnie didn't have the unique voice that Ozzy possessed. Ozzy had a certain mysteriousness about him that made Black Sabbath such a unique sound (not to mention they were the first of their kind in terms of the metal genr).


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Old 2004-07-01, 19:51
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Rhoads wasn't no Ultimate Sin, but I may be misinterpreting what you were trying to say in the first place.

Anyway, this is was I've heard:

Rhoads wrote the music.
Daisley wrote the lyrics.
Ozzy wrote the vocal melodies.
The drummer got paid.
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I read an old GW interview with Randy. He said Ozzy would hum an idea for the vocal melody and Randy would then come up with a chord progression under it, so I'm assuming he wrote the riffs. By the way, it's the June issue and you guys should read it. I never understood what the big deal was until I read it and realized what a genius he was.
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i have that issue. he was definately passionate about his music. and he has been a major influence on every lead...fuck it, just about every guitarist that has ever heard his stuff, and in sucha short time. i thinbk that biggest shame is thast we will never get a chance to hear what he would have sounded like were he still alive. like they, its not the good that die young. but rather the great
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Old 2004-07-04, 19:26
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randy rhoads was an amazing guitarist, but i do think he's slightly over rated.
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Old 2004-07-04, 19:44
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randy rhoads was an amazing guitarist, but i do think he's slightly over rated.

I agree w/ that, Randy Rhoads was an amazing guitarist.. but he is a little overated. Zakk and Kerry King are two of my favorite guitarists. \,,/
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Old 2004-07-04, 20:19
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You call Rhoads over-rated, but you list King as your favorite guitarist? Pfft, anyone can use a wammy bar, Junior. Hanneman is where the skill is.

Stay on topic, though. This is a thread about Rhoads.

Over-rated, yes. Pure Genius, yes.
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Old 2004-07-04, 20:31
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yeah he is over rated. i agree. but that said he was still great
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Old 2004-07-04, 20:33
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You call Rhoads over-rated, but you list King as your favorite guitarist? Pfft, anyone can use a wammy bar, Junior. Hanneman is where the skill is.

Stay on topic, though. This is a thread about Rhoads.

Over-rated, yes. Pure Genius, yes.

Hey.. i never said shit about Rhoads lol. Your right, he is Pure Genius.

Did RR play w/ anybody besides Ozzy?
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Old 2004-07-04, 21:29
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Hey.. i never said shit about Rhoads lol.


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I agree w/ that, Randy Rhoads was an amazing guitarist.. but he is a little overated.


Like contradicting yourself, dont you?
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Old 2004-07-04, 21:32
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All i said was hes a bit overrated. Im not going back on that. I never said anything against him like he sucks though. All i've said was hes overrated. He is an awsome guitarist.
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