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Old 2004-05-19, 18:35
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Is that the kerry kind model with a floyd rose...??? AHAHAH stupid bc rich


BLS, you know that the NJ B.C. Rich KKV sig mentioned here has only a Floyd trem system with Hz's. If it had a Kahler it wound be a true mock of his guitar with 81/85 pups, 24 5/8" scale, 24 fret ebony tribal inlay bourd, because I'm sure he only uses Kahler.

I'd like to find that box of brand spanken new Kahler bridges that are put on his guitars, so I could give them back to the world, maybe!
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Old 2004-05-19, 18:49
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When I looked at the site you gave, his guitars that were pictured looked as though they had an active EMG, because Hz's have adjustable poles while active EMG's do not. Maybe he does use them but I will never use them again. They don't have what I need.


If you mean the ESP Japan site (with the white background and frame on the left), it is an HZ. Not only does it say it in the notes on the left, but the logo on the pickup says it. The H3 and H4 don't have poles, only the H1, H1A, H2, and H2A have poles.

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Old 2004-05-20, 10:30
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Wow! I bet your right then because I had no ideal that there that many models of Hz pups.
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Old 2004-05-20, 16:04
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Yeah i've heard the H4's are pretty nice. I wouldn't mind trying one out, but havent' seen to many since most stock HZs have poles.

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Old 2004-05-21, 06:25
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Bah i have only played H4's and they rock!
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Old 2004-06-02, 00:38
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do you realize that youve never heard alexi playing with the hz because he recorded all of COB's current cd's with a jackson j50bc before his jacksons were stolen. Ive only seen one live vid of him playing the emg and it sucked donkey ass compared to the jackson. As far as EMGs go stay away from them at all costs, they have no tone, are sterile, are impossible to get good cleans out of without a lot of processing, and are noisier and muddier than evans and bartolinis. I have an 81/60 set in my guitar now and hate it passionately.

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Old 2004-06-02, 00:50
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Maybe you just have a shitty wiring job. I love EMG's.
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Old 2004-06-02, 04:25
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no the wirings perfect because i got a guitar place to do it and it looks like it should, shiny solder joints. I just hate the extreme sterility of emgs.
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Old 2004-06-02, 08:02
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do you realize that youve never heard alexi playing with the hz because he recorded all of COB's current cd's with a jackson j50bc before his jacksons were stolen. Ive only seen one live vid of him playing the emg and it sucked donkey ass compared to the jackson. As far as EMGs go stay away from them at all costs, they have no tone, are sterile, are impossible to get good cleans out of without a lot of processing, and are noisier and muddier than evans and bartolinis. I have an 81/60 set in my guitar now and hate it passionately.

sounds like you're the problem not the emg's. i've never had a problem with sterile tone and muddyness. my guitarist has a gibson sg loaded with an 81/85 set going into a 5150 on a defaced crate cab full of v30's and his sound is great.
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Old 2004-06-02, 09:44
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do you realize that youve never heard alexi playing with the hz because he recorded all of COB's current cd's with a jackson j50bc before his jacksons were stolen. Ive only seen one live vid of him playing the emg and it sucked donkey ass compared to the jackson. As far as EMGs go stay away from them at all costs, they have no tone, are sterile, are impossible to get good cleans out of without a lot of processing, and are noisier and muddier than evans and bartolinis. I have an 81/60 set in my guitar now and hate it passionately.


Yes, maybe the real problem is somewhere else. EMG's are sterile and have a crisp sharp attack, but thats just why I like them; thats suppose to be their signature tone. They can't be sterile and muddy at the same time. As for noise... you said that a shop did the wiring. Did they connect the ground to the bridge? There should be no ground to the bridge for EMG's. It can make things crazy sounding and is dangerious to you.
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Old 2004-06-02, 15:46
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nope, i took that off myself.
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Old 2004-06-02, 16:05
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Man you have to know how to dial them in...You can great pretty good cleans, you just have to crank back the volume knob, they are too high output for cleans at full power. Your rig has a lot to do with your tone. EMGs can give great tone, but if your rig blows, then of course your tone is going to blow regardless of pickups. Now I love EMGs, but the next few guitars I get won't have them cuz I want a different flavor, but this doesn't mean EMGs are bad. I don't know about your rig, but make sure you have mids. Also, if you are running a distortion pedal, THAT is what's shittifying your tone. It also depends on your amp and cab and whatnot. One thing about EMGs that makes them a BIT sterile is that they have some natural compression of the signal. You can add more headroom by installing another battery in series with the first battery, you can have up to 3 batteries actually, but EMG doesn't highly recommend it. This gives more dynamics to your sound.

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Old 2004-06-02, 22:46
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i hate emg's, duncans are the way too go, they have a unique tone in every guitar, all emg's, active ones at least, sound the same no matter what guitar you throw them in, i have played the all the hz's, and i dont like any of them, they sound better than like the cheapo bcrich or squier no name brand pickups, but they still suck compared to duncans or dimarzios.
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Old 2004-06-03, 01:55
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EMG's sound good for metal, and they cna really tighten up the low end. But yes they do sound almost exactly the same in any guitar... seems like they ignore the qualitys of tonewood. I agree, Duncans are the shit.
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Old 2004-06-03, 03:43
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EMG's dont sound the same in every guitar, every guitar I've played with EMG's sounded different from the other, and all of them had 81's in the bridge
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Old 2004-06-04, 15:37
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they don't sound "exactly" the same in every guitar, but definately "more" the same in different guitars because they're active and they don't rely on the wood characteristics of the guitar as much as passive pickups...
but a squire with emg's won't sound exactly like a prs with emgs just because of an emg pickup.... i wish it worked that way because then you wouldnt have to spend as much money to get a good sounding guitar, just buy an active pickup.
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Old 2004-06-10, 22:04
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EMGs always sound somewhat similar becuase they have an internal preamp, which drastically characterizes the sound before it ever reaches the amp. This can be gotten around using active EQ options as well as different amps, though they will still never be quite as versatile as other pickups. I think it'd be sweet if EMG came out with pickups that allowed the player to change the settings on the internal preamp through some buttons/menu on the guitar...now that'd be the best of both worlds.

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Old 2004-06-10, 22:35
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or you could just use duncans, cus as said before, they are the shit
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EMGs always sound somewhat similar becuase they have an internal preamp, which drastically characterizes the sound before it ever reaches the amp. This can be gotten around using active EQ options as well as different amps, though they will still never be quite as versatile as other pickups. I think it'd be sweet if EMG came out with pickups that allowed the player to change the settings on the internal preamp through some buttons/menu on the guitar...now that'd be the best of both worlds.

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Now that is a great ideal. Wonder if EMG would do that if enough people demanded it... but then we would have threads were people ask what you favorite EMG settings are

Shadow Pickups have an active pup with level and active E.Q. adjustments for its preamp right on the pup. The adjustment screws are on the face of the pup, kinda like post screws. It can mimic all EMG's and nearly any other pup, so they claim I almost got one of them once, but got scared of change and stayed with EMG's. I think they are made in Germany or something and they cost about $100+/- USD.
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EMGs always sound somewhat similar becuase they have an internal preamp, which drastically characterizes the sound before it ever reaches the amp. This can be gotten around using active EQ options as well as different amps, though they will still never be quite as versatile as other pickups. I think it'd be sweet if EMG came out with pickups that allowed the player to change the settings on the internal preamp through some buttons/menu on the guitar...now that'd be the best of both worlds.

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or you could just use passive pickups and buy a parametric eq.
i think if you like the tone that active pickups put out, go for em. if not take your pick of dozens of other high gain, low gain humbuckers,single coils,multibuckers,minibuckers... ect.
you just got to find what you like.
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